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AFF
06.09.09, 4:02 PM
Okay I thought about this one for a little while and I will spill it all out so you can let me know what you think.

I am probably going to attempt this on my Boss DS-1.
For a true bypass (possibly a pass through???) in a boss pedal would it be possible or not worth trying to place a 3dpt switch (smaller size) under the battery latch in the place of the old plastic switch?
Hopefully next I have a good idea here ... replace the two wires (black and purple) as they were on the original which will feed the signal into the circuit.
Next run a new wire from both the input and output 1/4" jacks. I may get myself lost here so bare with me ... I think you would need two wires coming from both or would you only need one from input and/or one from output???
Anyways what I am thinking is you can get by without tapping into the board this way and it would allow you to bypass the circuit and pass the signal from input->to switch->to output or input-> to switch-> to circuit-> and the normal operation would pass the signal through like normal through the pedal and out the 1/4" output to your amp or whatever is next in the signal path???

I am a little lost though because the normal switch had two wires and the new configuration may actually have two wires in and one out.


This is my first theory for a quick and slightly painless bypass but I am sure someone can figure this mess of thought out and tell me before I try it if it will work or not. Maybe someone has tried this before???

LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN PLEASE!!!
Thank you in advance for at least reading this!!!
-AFF

iaresee
06.09.09, 5:53 PM
I've never seen anyone fit a 3PDT under the hatch, but I have seen them mounted on the top of the pedal, with a hole drilled through the hatch and the switch occupying the area where the battery sits.

You might have have better lucky retrofitting something like a Wicked Switch (http://www.geocities.com/thetonegod/switches/switches.html) into the pedal and using the existing momentary switch to trigger a state change. From the outside the change would be invisible.

Of course you could always go the really painless route: build yourself a small true bypass box in something like this (http://www.pedalpartsplus.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PPP&Product_Code=1117&Category_Code=ENC15)and then you don't have to try and fit this in the pedal.

AFF
06.09.09, 6:27 PM
I thought about doing that ... using the box outside of the unit but that would definately become a big pain quick!

I saw a picture of someone who had successfully mounted the switch under the latch (battery compartment) in the place of the stock switch. I know someone makes a switch that is "slimline" but it is about 3 times the cost of a normal switch ... even more that a 4dpt switch.

I will look for the picture again for the person that had the switch mounted and post the link to that forum post.

Anyways ... do you think the rewiring would work? Aside from the switch that is...

thanks
-AFF

AFF
06.09.09, 6:51 PM
this is a picture of what I have in mind with a mini 3dpt switch ... I still unsure as to whether my idea about hardwire bypass/pass through ...

just so everyone understands what I mean ... I want to run a jumper wire from the input to the switch to the output ... I MIGHT have to upgrade my 1/4" input and output so that I can attach two seperate sets of wires per side but that bridge I will cross as soon as I learn if my idea has a "leg" to stand on.

I have seen the millenium bypass mod for boss but I am actually not very keen on the idea.

thanks
-AFF

AFF
06.09.09, 6:55 PM
sh!t. I forgot it.

http://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?p=30564#p30564

the picture is on this page. It is the 7th post from the TOP!
Look it over and let me know!!! This is the idea I have had for awhile but I am just unsure if my idea for it is gonna work.

AFF
06.09.09, 7:41 PM
Somewhat on the same topic but slightly not ...

Can I completely remove the buffers in my ds-1???

What i mean is it possible to open the values very wide open so that they are not actually restricting anything? Or can I just place a jumper in place of the actual component?

The reason I ask ... I have heard that you possibly lose tone because the buffers take out some of the freqs and possibly constrict/compress the signal.

let me know what you think about this.

If I cannot get my hardwiring the 3dpt switch to work then I want to "open up"/"remove" the buffers. I know there are topics about this but will this idea work?

Thanks so much!
-AFF

Leeroyfunk
06.11.09, 9:46 AM
There's a much better way to true-bypass a Boss, also found at freestompboxes.org:

http://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=5132&p=64747&hilit=boss+bypass#p64747

bside2234
06.29.09, 11:48 PM
I agree the relays are the best way to bypass the pedal. The way you described won't work at all. You need to make yourself familiar with how the flip-flop switching circuit of Boss pedals works. You have to bypass the switching and make the pedal always on.

It is possible to put a 3pdt switch under the lid on some Boss pedals. Most of the time the circuit board gets in the way.

Why do you want to true bypass it? Boss pedals have really decent buffers in them.