Ebow effects/questions...

[slcrock]

what are some good effects to use with an ebow. obviously a delay or phaser with your tone rolled down, so i guess my question is more like what settings on your effects or any technique tips anyone can give me? also what chain order would you put the effects? i'm looking for really wide and atmospheric sounds... i don't have an ebow yet but i want to, let me know....

[nobody]

A volume pedal is essential for Ebow use, the ebow is REALLY loud and you need to tame it.

Other than that, the standard rules apply ... in other words, there are no rules. ;)

[greek_acrobat]

I totally agree with nobody.

I love it with a tremolo. lovely pulsing sounds, etc. You get the idea.

[whirlaway]

you don't need anything w/ an ebow, but you can use dist, delay, etc. just experiment.

[nobody]

Originally posted by greek_acrobat
I totally agree with nobody.

I love it with a tremolo. lovely pulsing sounds, etc. You get the idea.

Tremolo is good, obviously delay and reverb are good. umm ... phaser before delay and reverb is really nice. Pitchshifters and apreggiators are good.

The only thing that isn't so good are distortions.

[guidedbyechos]

a whammy to make space ship noises :D

[Surferosad]

Avoid heavy distortion and get a volume pedal. Or spend a lot of time with it so you get to know exactly were the sweet spots are, so that you can control volume by changing the distance between the ebow and the pick-up. Use the neck pick-up, it's easier.

I love using mine with a volume pedal and loads of reverb.

[slcrock]

OK volume pedal it is I'll also check out tremelo, thanks guys!!!

[boyecho]

i dont use distortion, but i keep my guitar at full volume, and the ebow distorts the hell out of my ampeg. it is fantastic.

but distortion can sound cheesy with an ebow..

i like fuzz with the tone rolled all the way off.

and yes, i learned a volume pedal is now a complete must for me. you cant do volume swells oin your guitar with an ebow in your fist.

[RUSHFANnLV]

ebow = fun for days.;)

[Super_Person_X]

Originally posted by nobody
A volume pedal is essential for Ebow use, the ebow is REALLY loud and you need to tame it.

Other than that, the standard rules apply ... in other words, there are no rules. ;)


how it work? I never understood that, then again i never played one. Does it work with an acoustic?

[apocalypsecow]

Originally posted by Super_Person_X
how it work? I never understood that, then again i never played one. Does it work with an acoustic?

Yeah, you can do it on an acoustic. It just doesn't work as well. Takes a special touch

what it basically is is a magnet that pulls on your strings, making them vibrate without having to pick them. it cna get you soem really interesting sounds.

[the river]

it's not like buying a volume pedal will really do anything different than just turning down the volume on your guitar. i guess if you need to go from playing to e bowing in a split second it could help. it could help you tweak to the perfect volume while playing live, yes. but i wouldn't call it a neccesity.
depends on what you want with your e bow. delay and chorus will enrich the sound, but i'm sure you know that. anything more like phaser and you are going to get some pretty over-the-top sounds.

[nobody]

Originally posted by the river
it's not like buying a volume pedal will really do anything different than just turning down the volume on your guitar. i guess if you need to go from playing to e bowing in a split second it could help.

In a band context it's VERY handy. When you're using an Ebow, you can't reach the volume knob on the guitar, so the pedal helps keep the ebow mixed with the band without having to stop to adjust the guitar volume.

[Rock A My Soul]

Originally posted by apocalypsecow
Yeah, you can do it on an acoustic. It just doesn't work as well. Takes a special touch

I believe that Billy Corgan used it for a couple Smashing Pumpkins tracks.

[zepolant]

I'm still looking to buy one, but does anyone here have an experience with the.


http://www.piranhaguitarbow.com/


It would be nice it there were some sound clips.

[the river]

Originally posted by nobody
In a band context it's VERY handy. When you're using an Ebow, you can't reach the volume knob on the guitar, so the pedal helps keep the ebow mixed with the band without having to stop to adjust the guitar volume.

hey i don't know the exact context he's wanting to use the e-bow.
just saying, don't think you need a frickin volume pedal to use it. get to know it and then you'll know what you need. most guitarists never use an e bow live. telling someone a volume pedal is an essential adjunct to an e bow is ridiculous.
dude, buy the frickin e-bow. you won't regret it. then if there is a major issue with the volume live, consider a volume pedal.

[boyecho]

damn kid. calm down..

i think a volume pedal would accent an ebow nicely. it's hard to swell with the ebow in your hand at such a precise positioning it needs. if you've got a volume pedal, you've got so much more expression with it.

say you're trilling a note, you can swell the volume in and out as well.

i think out of all the effects i would use with an ebow, a volume pedal would get the most use...

[nobody]

Originally posted by the river
hey i don't know the exact context he's wanting to use the e-bow.
just saying, don't think you need a frickin volume pedal to use it. get to know it and then you'll know what you need. most guitarists never use an e bow live. telling someone a volume pedal is an essential adjunct to an e bow is ridiculous.

Easy, tiger.

He asked for personal OPINIONS about what might be cool souding with an Ebow. I have always found a volume pedal is the most expressive and useful pedal to use with an Ebow. jeebus ....

[the river]

I AM CALM GODDAMMIT!:mad: :mad: :D :D

seriously though what's the problem guys? i have a volume pedal, an ebow, and every single effect mentioned here. some of 'em i wouldn't really consider neccessities. your opinion is that a volume pedal works well with an e bow. you also like tremolo with it. i find tremolo to be a nearly worthless item. my opinion is that, if he thinks he needs a volume pedal to get the most out of an e bow, he might find himself out 80 bucks with a pedal that he doesn't really need. that's why i posted. we all have different needs.
take care gentlemen

[nobody]

Originally posted by the river
seriously though what's the problem guys? i have a volume pedal, an ebow, and every single effect mentioned here. some of 'em i wouldn't really consider neccessities. your opinion is that a volume pedal works well with an e bow. you also like tremolo with it. i find tremolo to be a nearly worthless item. my opinion is that, if he thinks he needs a volume pedal to get the most out of an e bow, he might find himself out 80 bucks with a pedal that he doesn't really need. that's why i posted. we all have different needs.

Do you really think he's just going to blindly buy a volume pedal because I said it works good with an ebow? No, he isn't. I gave my opinion so he will CONSIDER one to try it out and see if he likes it.

good god ... :rolleyes:

[the river]

he might.

[fiveways]

personally, i find a volume pedal with a ebow a good thing.

too bad I think the ebow was a total waste of my money at this point.

[idealflaw]

Originally posted by apocalypsecow
Yeah, you can do it on an acoustic. It just doesn't work as well. Takes a special touch

what it basically is is a magnet that pulls on your strings, making them vibrate without having to pick them. it cna get you soem really interesting sounds.

it takes a fresh battery more than a special touch! :)



i have an ebow but i don't use it much anymore. i'm tired of hearing them. they're not so special now that every band in the world has one. And very few of those bands have made a 'new' sound with them.
I rarely grab it because it's easier for me to just lean forward and let the feedback 'ebow' my guitar naturally.. works the same way for me...

I DO, however, enjoy real bows.

[nobody]

Originally posted by idealflaw
I DO, however, enjoy real bows.

And those are starting to get just as frequently used as ebows.

The only time I use my ebow is when I can get it to not sound like an ebow.

[idealflaw]

Originally posted by nobody
And those are starting to get just as frequently used as ebows.

The only time I use my ebow is when I can get it to not sound like an ebow.

No joke.. everythings been done now. i'm going to just play sports now..

[Rock A My Soul]

Originally posted by nobody
And those are starting to get just as frequently used as ebows.

I was quite surprised to see the guy from Brand New using one in the rig that was posted last week.

The only time I use my ebow is when I can get it to not sound like an ebow.

Have you tried it with the PS-3 or PS-5? I'd like to get one to use it with either one to get interesting sounds.

[nobody]

Originally posted by Rock A My Soul
Have you tried it with the PS-3 or PS-5? I'd like to get one to use it with either one to get interesting sounds.

Of course. :)

Most of the time I can get infinite (or long enough) sustain without one, but I think the Ebow is great with pitchshifters and the space station.

[zepolant]

Originally posted by zepolant
I'm still looking to buy one, but does anyone here have an experience with the.


http://www.piranhaguitarbow.com/


It would be nice it there were some sound clips.

No, zepolant no one here has ever heard of or uses a Piranha guitar bow. In fact they are worthless with out forementione effects (and an ebow).

Seriously please don't let looping and space turn into all the other threads around here. I understand that the opinoins are varied and sometimes the variance in said opinions may get heated, but this is the first time I've seen geeks get some what "heated" (for lack of a better term) about their opinions in this particular forum....DOES ANYONE KNOW SQUAT ABOUT THE PIRANH?!?!?!?

:confused:

Pretty please....

[clifford]

Originally posted by zepolant
No, zepolant no one here has ever heard of or uses a Piranha guitar bow. In fact they are worthless with out forementione effects (and an ebow).

Seriously please don't let looping and space turn into all the other threads around here. I understand that the opinoins are varied and sometimes the variance in said opinions may get heated, but this is the first time I've seen geeks get some what "heated" (for lack of a better term) about their opinions in this particular forum....DOES ANYONE KNOW SQUAT ABOUT THE PIRANH?!?!?!?

:confused:

Pretty please....

I wonder if that what Frusciante uses before 'Venice Queen' on the DVD.. the guitar sounds like a violin and there's no blue light. Maybe just the edge of the pick or something..

Still, it looks interesting enough, maybe ebay will be cheaper than 30 bucks.

[BlueOrb]

i have an ebow and i have various real bows in the house because i am a violin player and my father plays cello, ebows can do some sweet things, i like them best for creating flute and clarinet type sounds, but if you really want that bowed sound, an ebay can't touch a nicely rosened cello bow.

[LennyNero]

Originally posted by greek_acrobat
I totally agree with nobody.

:lol: I love that sentence!!!! :D

[mnemonic]

Originally posted by nobody
And those are starting to get just as frequently used as ebows.

Yeah. And damn, picks are getting really frequently used too :rolleyes:

[nobody]

Originally posted by mnemonic
Yeah. And damn, picks are getting really frequently used too :rolleyes:

Apples/oranges, man. Guitars aren't designed for bow usage, but they are designed for picks and fingers. You need a much greater string radius to fully take advantage of a bow. To me, it's just gimicky and uncreative. Most people weren't interested in using bows on guitar until Sigur Ros became more known.

[mnemonic]

Yeah. Sigur Ros is why I looked into it too, and I personally think its pretty cool. If its gimmiky, eh, so what. Won't matter to me =)

[BlueOrb]

if you want to sound like sigur ros get a real bow not an ebow

[mnemonic]

Yeah dude, thats what we were talking about..... even though this thread is about EBows =P I plan on getting both sooner or later.