Drugs are dumb...anyone else?

[zcashman]

In response to some dude saying im an ass hole for saying drugs are dumb, I was just wondering, am I the only one or are there other people that think drinking, smoking,shrooms, and other things like that are totally pointless and stupid?

[skip tracer]

Why do you think these things are totally pointless and stupid?

[zcashman]

Why do people think their so good?

[rhcp311]

I tend to agree. I don't really see much of a point in doing that stuff, but far be it from me to stop anyone else from doing it. Most of my friends drink and chew tobacco, but it doesn't really bother me. I just don't see a point in me doing it.

[haiku_suicide]

Everyone has their reasons. I used to do lots of drugs, but I stopped (except for cigarettes), and if people want to do them, I'm not going to waste their time and try to tell them that it's stupid and they're bad people. I've been there a million times, and they're not gonna listen unless they want to. I can attest to the fact that my life is better without drugs, but it's no one's place to tell someone else what to do with their life. They'll figure it out for themselves eventually if it's truly ruining their life, and if it's not, then just let them be.

[skip tracer]

Originally posted by zcashman
Why do people think their so good?

Hey, you brought up the subject. I couldn't tell you why people think they're so good. I'd just like to know how you came to the conclusion that they are "totally pointless and stupid."

[SGROCKER0791]

Illegal drugs (ex. cocaine) are bad to you (health) and you can get additied *snap* just like that. Prescription and over-the-counter drugs (ex. Advil) is for helping you (headache, high fever, etc.), but can be just as additing as illegal drugs. Also, pre. and OTC drugs can hurt you if (ex. you) take too much.

[zcashman]

Okay, I never told anyone they couldn't do them. I never said people who did were bad people. All I said was drugs were bad, and the topic is about if other people agree that they're bad, not to flame me for thinking so.

[airfall]

generally when someone says something is "dumb," it's because they don't know anything about it. besides, if everything made sense, that wouldn't be very interesting, now would it? admitting there are things you don't understand is cool, saying they're pointless and stupid isn't so much. not that i think you're not cool... just inexperienced.

maybe you play golf with your friends. i get high with mine. there's not such a huge difference there, if you think about it. neither serves any greater purpose than amusement and comradery (sp?), and you're a lot more likely to play a crappy game of golf than i am to roll a poor joint. i ultimately agree that chemicals naturally produced in the brain give a more natural, more pure high than the various smokables, edibles and drinkables, but i'm no purist.

[Petary791]

I think drugs have done some good things for us, I really do.
And if you don’t believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a
Favor: go home tonight and take all your albums, all your tapes, and all
your cds and burn 'em 'cause you know what? The musicians who've made
all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years...
They were real ****ing high on drugs.

[zcashman]

Way to copy Maynard with that.

[Petary791]

Originally posted by zcashman
Way to copy Maynard with that.

Bill Hicks... but Maynard too. I wasn't claiming credit.

[METaLLiKka7447]

I've only tried marijuana (well not really tried, but used extensively). Like airfall said, while you do one thing for fun, we smoke Cannabis. Some people like to relax and enjoy a couple of beers, I like to relax and enjoy a few bowls. Everything in moderation, I say. I don't smoke every day, but if I go bowling or to a movie I'm gonna' smoke up.

Simple as that. Move on.

[Shiro]

Originally posted by zcashman
Why do people think their so good?

"Why do people think they're so good?"

[Aneuretic]

zcashman have you ever done drugs of any kind?

[zcashman]

No, I havn't tried them. And I know everyone is going to be like "but then how can you say their so bad?" But I'd prefer not to do them, I've been around people doing it and said no to it, I just don't have any desire to ever do that. I don't see how it can relieve stress or entertain you better then anything else. I just don't see the point in doing drugs.

[haiku_suicide]

Originally posted by zcashman
No, I havn't tried them. And I know everyone is going to be like "but then how can you say their so bad?" But I'd prefer not to do them, I've been around people doing it and said no to it, I just don't have any desire to ever do that. I don't see how it can relieve stress or entertain you better then anything else. I just don't see the point in doing drugs.

I wish I could have your attitude, but I've tainted my mind beyond repair and there's nothing I can do about it. You're very lucky that you don't feel the need to go and get ****ed up every second of the day.

[Aneuretic]

right on i was just wondering

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by haiku_suicide
I wish I could have your attitude, but I've tainted my mind beyond repair and there's nothing I can do about it. You're very lucky that you don't feel the need to go and get ****ed up every second of the day.

I had a destroyed relationship with a family member because the FM drank so much.

[haiku_suicide]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
I had a destroyed relationship with a family member because the FM drank so much.

I feel for you man. I did that to a lot of people, and it's really ****ty. I think about it a lot, and there doesn't even seem like there's anything that I could've ever done about it. Even thinking back to when I was little, anything that I liked a lot I just couldn't stop doing. Addiction is a psychological disorder, and some people are cursed with that from birth.

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by haiku_suicide
I feel for you man. I did that to a lot of people, and it's really ****ty. I think about it a lot, and there doesn't even seem like there's anything that I could've ever done about it. Even thinking back to when I was little, anything that I liked a lot I just couldn't stop doing. Addiction is a psychological disorder, and some people are cursed with that from birth.

Watch "Intervention" on A&E. The show is about helping people out with there addictions. It strats out with the person saying thier name and then spelling it. They first tell about there life (job, family, etc...) and after that, tell their addition. The cameras goes through his/her everyday life for a few days and then, start the intervent. Intervent is when a doctor and the person's closest family members and friends come together to tell how they feel and what they will do if they don't seek help (friendship is over, taking the kids away, etc.). By the end of the show, they show the person's status and about 100% of the time, everyone is happier.

BTW: I feel for you too.

[haiku_suicide]

yea I've seen parts of intervention before. It's the only reality show that is actually any good in my opinion. I had one of those once...

[SGROCKER0791]

HOLY CRAP! Look at zcashman's sig! :eek:

Dude, you could get banned for that stuff.

[SGROCKER0791]

Ok, much better zcashman. :)

[zcashman]

Because you warned me that I could get banned, I'm gonna have to say you have a pretty kick **** guitar.

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by zcashman
Because you warned me that I could get banned, I'm gonna have to say you have a pretty kick **** guitar.

Uh, thanks.

Just be a lot careful next time, thats's all. :)

[teleman]

Originally posted by Petary791

all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years...
They were real ****ing high on drugs.

Not who I listen to. For the most part.
Don't make sweeping chraracteristics of people.


The rest is directed at those who support drug use.

As some who works with delinquent youth, I have seen many more negative effetcs of drugs than positive. yes, they may be helpful in finding one's muse, but they are also helpful in finding disease, poverty, jail, being taken advantage of, death, loss of meaningful relationships.

Next time you go to the funeral of a 17 year old who OD'd on heroin, let me know. Let me know how you feel when you have to look his mother in the eye and offer your condolences. Let me know how you feel when you see what is left of a person while they're lying in a casket simply because of a substance.

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by teleman
Next time you go to the funeral of a 17 year old who OD'd on heroin, let me know. Let me know how you feel when you have to look his mother in the eye and offer your condolences. Let me know how you feel when you see what is left of a person while they're lying in a casket simply because of a substance.

That has to be heartbreaking to watch teleman. Sorry.

[GDan]

Depends on the drug, depends on the situation, depends on the person. Its ignorant to make a sweeping genralisation and say "Drugs are dumb" or ""Drugs are freat."

[legend]

I've dabbled in the past. In... various things. I'm fully aware that i have an "addictive personality" which makes it all the more remarkable i don't do illegal drugs anymore. I'm glad i have had my own experiences with substance (ab)use, and i wouldn't have it any other way.

I'm addicted to smoking cigarettes. Disgustingly so. I've got an on/off love affair with alcohol. I've struggled with controlling my binge drinking for years now. I'm not a "social drinker". Essentially, i drink to get out of my brain, but i've finally decided to make a "proper" attempt at quitting. I always say "never again", and then i'm back on it two weeks later. It's pretty obvious to me that i have some kind of problem with drinking. I'm not saying i'm an *cue dramatic voice* alcoholic. I'm just not a responsible drinker and i drink too much.

I think drugs have a time and a place, but these vary on the user. Some people seem to mix very well with drugs, and i'm not about to stop people doing what they want. I haven't exactly led a blameless life, so i'm not gonna throw stones at people if they spark up a joint in my presence. As long as they don't get stoned and try to talk to me about the meaning of life.

Although, i have to say.... in my experience, coke turns people into peckers.

[michael-callari]

Drugs (not hard drugs) don't really bother me that much. What bothers me is when people do drugs and they think someone is loser or a p*ssy just because they don't. It's like they think they are better than you because you don't get high and they do. There's a dude at my school who is an awesome guitarist, but when he gets stoned he sucks. Now I was thinking about trying a little weed, but I really don't want to get addicted to that sh*t. So anyway, I really don't care if people do drugs, just as long as they aren't d*ckheads about it.

[GDan]

Originally posted by michael-callari
Drugs (not hard drugs) don't really bother me that much. What bothers me is when people do drugs and they think someone is loser or a p*ssy just because they don't. It's like they think they are better than you because you don't get high and they do. There's a dude at my school who is an awesome guitarist, but when he gets stoned he sucks. Now I was thinking about trying a little weed, but I really don't want to get addicted to that sh*t. So anyway, I really don't care if people do drugs, just as long as they aren't d*ckheads about it.

You cant become physically addicted to weed. You can become dependant, when you get out of bed every day and think "Y'know, I'd probably be happier if I was high" but thats not the same thing.

I'd say if you want to try it go for it. I dont mean to sound like a pusher or anything, there are good reasons for not smoking weed but fear of getting addicted isnt really one of them

[Nameless]

Originally posted by teleman
Not who I listen to. For the most part.
Don't make sweeping chraracteristics of people.


The rest is directed at those who support drug use.

As some who works with delinquent youth, I have seen many more negative effetcs of drugs than positive. yes, they may be helpful in finding one's muse, but they are also helpful in finding disease, poverty, jail, being taken advantage of, death, loss of meaningful relationships.

Next time you go to the funeral of a 17 year old who OD'd on heroin, let me know. Let me know how you feel when you have to look his mother in the eye and offer your condolences. Let me know how you feel when you see what is left of a person while they're lying in a casket simply because of a substance.

Do you not drink alcohol either? That is a drug. My friend died 2 weeks shy of his 18th birthday because he drank stupid amounts and got alcohol poisoning. He knew what he was doing, which makes it hurt more. Do I or any of his other friends now abstain from drinking? No, because we are sensible adults who can have a drink now and then and not die because of it. The same goes for our/my drug use. Every once in a while I'll have some E's or some coke, and occasionally mushrooms or LSD. I'm not addicted, never been close as I use as responsibly as I can, and not with a great deal of frequency.

I respect the stand your making here, and the overall message is one that I could never reasonably say is out of line. But not everyone becomes an addict, and we all have our rights to make our own informed decisions as adults. Drugs are bad, but drugs are good as well. I've had great nights both with and without and I wouldn't trade them for anything. But remember that alcohol causes as many problems as drugs.

[Welladjusted]

a friend of mine checked into rehab for a cocaine problem a few months ago for the second time, and derailed a play in the process. i've also had family members hurt eachother over drugs and marriages break up and friends drop off the face of the earth. if you want to experiment with drugs, nothing i can say will stop that. but there are a lot of less than pleasant consequences when drug use becomes drug abuse. that's just my opinion though.

[airfall]

Originally posted by Welladjusted
a friend of mine checked into rehab for a cocaine problem a few months ago for the second time, and derailed a play in the process. i've also had family members hurt eachother over drugs and marriages break up and friends drop off the face of the earth. if you want to experiment with drugs, nothing i can say will stop that. but there are a lot of less than pleasant consequences when drug use becomes drug abuse. that's just my opinion though. +millions.
recreational drug use is fine in my book. ABUSE is a whole different thing. if it starts changing your life, it's time to STOP. basically, they can be a lot of fun from time to time, but don't **** around and start relying on drugs heavily for entertainment or making yourself feel better. it's a quick fix that only worsens the problem.

[Talent?!]

Originally posted by airfall
+millions.
recreational drug use is fine in my book. ABUSE is a whole different thing. if it starts changing your life, it's time to STOP. basically, they can be a lot of fun from time to time, but don't **** around and start relying on drugs heavily for entertainment or making yourself feel better. it's a quick fix that only worsens the problem.

+1

You said what I would say, but more eloquently.

[lp_man]

Drugs are bad...m'kay?

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by lp_man
Drugs are bad...m'kay?

Alright Mr. Macky...m'kay?















:)

[monkeywrench]

I can't really drink much, my kidneys are kinda weird, so unlike all my friends, I can't get wrecked at parties. But i still have a good time. Which proves drugs aren't necessary for having a good time.

But drugs can make a good night. I once got a bit stoned and went to the cinema with some friends and it was class. We followed one of my friend's ex's for a bit while saying "love handles", cos she was a bit fat. Now would I have done this and had such fun when I wasn't stoned? Maybe, I am very easily amused... to quote my ex "grow up, and fast".

But basically what I'm trying to say is drugs are bad when you are addicted or you go overboard. And you should always use drugs like alcohol or lsd or mushrooms, etc. (trippy and incapacitating ****) in a safe place. And although you don't have to do drugs yourself, you can't stop others from trying them. But the same goes for people using drugs, you can use them, but don't force others to or judge them for it.

In one sentence: it's your life, do what you want with it, within reason though!

[Dan the Man]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
Prescription and over-the-counter drugs (ex. Advil) is for helping you (headache, high fever, etc.), but can be just as additing as illegal drugs.

I distrust the people who make antidepressants, cures for ADHD, and drugs for social anxiety disorder. Even though I have some friends whose lives improved after using them, I still think that drugs aren't the real way to solve a problem of that nature. A lot of those ADHD diagnoses are just BS anyway.

No matter what anyone else says, the thing I like about marijuana is that people generally don't do it for reasons of "coolness". It's much better than alcohol, which is sold by huge companies that hire advertising firms to assault people my age with messages to buy their wares for almost no reason. People smoke marijuana to get high, plain and simple. They don't do it to look like a cowboy. Thank God pot is illegal, because it can't be advertised on TV or in magazines.

[Welladjusted]

back in high school i didn't drink, buty my friends would. so i'd take pictures of them drunk and make them "you drunken ass" collages.

a sign of artistic leanings to come?

[DavyBoy721]

I think drugs are no big deal as long as the person is responsible about it and knows when to quit. I don't do them which means I don't really have the right to say if they're dumb or anything because I'm sure once you want it that you can't control it. (Makin crazy sh*t up :D) Like if some study comes up that playing guitar can cause you to have cancer, it doesn't mean I'm gonna stop playing it. It's something I already love to do and it makes me feel good. I'm sure drugs are a lot the same way. I agree that they can be unhealthy but I can't stop anyone else from taking/doing them. You can have a good time without drugs but I'm sure you also can with them. I know if I spent more time hanging out with people and less time on here and in my room listening to music and playing guitar that I would probably do lots of stuff that wouldn't be good for my body, but it would still be fun as hell.

[doingtheunstuck]

Drugs have put me in the hospital. They've turned me into a zombie. They've kept me from killing myself. They've kept me from killing other people. They've made me feel great. Horrible. Complacent. They've nearly killed me. They've helped me understand myself and a disease that has a tendancy to wreak havoc on my brain. They've gotten me this far.

Some of them are legal. Some of them aren't. Some of the worst experienc es with drugs I've had were with legal ones. I still suffer from problems caused by some of the legal drugs.

Why did I do the legal ones? Many of those ones were forced on me. The less than legal? Depends on which. Some I did because they helped me find a better place in my head; aiding me in a fight that psychiatric drugs failed me pretty badly with. Some of them, I did to blot out certain thoughts, emotions and places in my life in order to help myself not be overwhelmed. A few of them, I just did because it was fun.

I've been pretty clean for a good while now. I very briefly relapsed a couple months back, only to find thatt it wasn't the same anymore. I'll probably end up smoking some cloves soon because I like the way they taste/feel to smoke. I'll probably get totally ****faced with alcohol soon. Why? Because I enjoy it.

Beyond those... No interest right now, mostly. Psychedelics might be nice, but I'm not in a good place to do them at this point.

I guess... My view of drugs is that they're just as bad as their user. Every person has their own tendancies and their own limits and certain drugs and certain people and certain times can add up to bad things. I've had many friends die as of result of drugs, nearly died myself, etc... I've seen the bad and the good and well... it happens. Every person is responsible for themselves (not that it's not nice to have some help, but... well, you can't count on it). Drugs certainly can be a bad thing, but so can computers & televisions & food. It's all in what, when, where, how much and why.

Now to eat and go back to teaching stupid chords to my girlfriend.

[airfall]

excellent post, doingtheunstuck. that was one of the most intelligent things i've read on this forum in quite a while.

[sirterrapin]

I am of the opinion that certain drugs agree or disagree with certain people and hence all drugs are risky, though none are guaranteed to have horrible consequences. As long as someone can use drugs without damaging others, directly or indirectly, I'm fine with it.

I do, however, think that the illegality of certain drugs(weed, shrooms) is more damaging to the user than the effects of the drug. I've never heard of anyone directly injured by smoking pot(other than lung problems), though I personally know dozens of people who've had problems with law enforcement and their families because of its legal status. I find it ridiculous that arbitrary legislation exists which condemns pot smokers without reason. There's something wrong in a society where you can get 6 months probation for posession of a quarter sack at a Dead concert.

[michael-callari]

Originally posted by sirterrapin
There's something wrong in a society where you can get 6 months probation for posession of a quarter sack at a Dead concert.

Yeah, aren't you supposed to get high at a Dead concert? Isn't that the whole point of going?:D

[fatgraymatt]

Originally posted by Petary791
Bill Hicks... but Maynard too. I wasn't claiming credit.

Yup, Maynard got it from Bill Hicks and so did I in my post on the other thread! But the man spoke the truth.

[fatgraymatt]

Originally posted by zcashman
No, I havn't tried them. I just don't have any desire to ever do that.

Good for you, man. I hope you never do them, I know alot of bad sh*t has happened to people because of drugs.

That said, I did quite a few, and don't regret it a bit. I "experimented" with a number of things and smoked alot of weed for years (although I don't anymore) but I never had any serious ill effects, other than some bad hangovers caused by perfectly legal (and profitably taxed) alcohol, and none of the guys I used to party with did either. Me and all my old party buddies are pretty much straight, law-abiding, square citizens now, BECAUSE WE COULD HANDLE IT. Lots of people can't handle drinking a beer either but we don't base our laws on those people.

I've never in my life heard a rational argument for why booze is legal and weed is not. I KNOW why weed is illegal, because I've read up on the history of the subject, and know about guys like Harry Anslinger and Randolf Hearst, and what they did to make it illegal in the first place, back in the 30's. If you can't tell me who Harry Anslinger is, don't talk to me about marijuana laws. There's plenty of info about those guys on the web, but trust me, pot wasn't made illegal to protect anyone's health, it all had to do with profit and power. This is America after all, almost everything here is about profit and power.

My personal opinion is, in a country that bills itself as the "Land of the Free", it's pretty f*cked up that we have the highest per-capita incarceration rate in the world. Higher than Russia. Higher than North Korea. And it's mainly due to insane drug policies. I hope my kids never do drugs but I'd be much more afraid of what the government would do to them because of it than what the drugs themselves could do. When it comes to the "war on drugs" (what a joke, it's a war on the drugs that don't make money for the people in power), the cure is worse than the disease.

My bottom line is: if you don't want to do drugs I applaud you, but don't force your way of thinking on other people. The government has no Goddamned business telling people what to put in their bodies when it is making huge sums of money from the taxes on tobacco and alcohol. Unless the guy smoking the joint is driving a motor vehicle or otherwise endangering someone else, leave him the f*ck alone!

PS, this is a GUITAR FORUM.

[Jelly]

I find drugs interesting, but i don't do any, nor have i ever taken any. I personaly don't care what other people do as long as it doesn't affect me, but i wouldn't say "drugs are dumb", because i know lots of people who take drugs, and they're really nice people, it hasn't affected them in any way...

The main reason i don't want to is that i have an addictive personality, and would find it so hard to stop...

Hey, who cares? If someone else ****s themself up with them, it's their lookout, let them live their own life.

[SGROCKER0791]

I'm sorry, but this thread is JUST SAD! (http://guitargeek.com/chat/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54162&highlight=banned)

[doingtheunstuck]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
I'm sorry, but this thread is JUST SAD! (http://guitargeek.com/chat/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54162&highlight=banned)

I know you're not typically one for saying anything particularly articulate, verbose or well thought out, but why? Why is it sad? That is a type of thread I typically take no part in (and if I do, it is in a very vague sense), but I see nothing sad about it.

Pretend you and a bunch of friends are together. You start talking about sports. This conversation quickly leads to you guys listing out the sports you've played at any length. Or hell, you're with friends & are eating sushi. You start talking about "weird" foods (weird from a perspective) and start listing out the ones you've tried.

Are those sad? If you think so, you're a bloomin' idiot.. They're pretty typical, really. The idea of such conversation is to open up for more conversation, I think. You list what you've done. I list what I've done. Poof. Now we know where our common ground is and we can discuss it! Seriously, without such conversations, things might get awkward! Imagine if someone just immediattely assumed you'd done x out of a list of a-z, but you've never done x. You've done y, p, and q, but never x. But they're babbling away at you like you'd done x... asking what your experiences were like and such. Now, you'r ein the position of explaining you haven't done x (and then, most likely, you will list out what you HAVE done after mentioning that you haven't done x).

I don't know. "I've participated in/done/whatever ___, ___, ___" conversations are useful for future conversations, IMO.

There. I've explained my position. Your turn, SG.

[Nameless]

I think SG may have viewed the thread as a back slapping exercise as in "aren't I cool, look what I've done" sense, which is a bit sad really, as we're not really into glorifying drugs are we.

Thats how I percieved it anyways, and lay off him man, his heart is in the right place and your first sentence was really harsh. We can't all be genius' you know, but it doesn't make someone a bad person if they haven't got a degree in the english language.

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by doingtheunstuck
I know you're not typically one for saying anything particularly articulate, verbose or well thought out, but why? Why is it sad? That is a type of thread I typically take no part in (and if I do, it is in a very vague sense), but I see nothing sad about it.

Pretend you and a bunch of friends are together. You start talking about sports. This conversation quickly leads to you guys listing out the sports you've played at any length. Or hell, you're with friends & are eating sushi. You start talking about "weird" foods (weird from a perspective) and start listing out the ones you've tried.

Are those sad? If you think so, you're a bloomin' idiot.. They're pretty typical, really. The idea of such conversation is to open up for more conversation, I think. You list what you've done. I list what I've done. Poof. Now we know where our common ground is and we can discuss it! Seriously, without such conversations, things might get awkward! Imagine if someone just immediattely assumed you'd done x out of a list of a-z, but you've never done x. You've done y, p, and q, but never x. But they're babbling away at you like you'd done x... asking what your experiences were like and such. Now, you'r ein the position of explaining you haven't done x (and then, most likely, you will list out what you HAVE done after mentioning that you haven't done x).

I don't know. "I've participated in/done/whatever ___, ___, ___" conversations are useful for future conversations, IMO.

There. I've explained my position. Your turn, SG.

Sports and sushi does not get a person high, damage in the mind and body (yes, you could get hurt from sports), and/or die.

The subject of "What Durgs do You Take?" is sad because drugs (ex. cocaine, DMX, weed) can hurt the person and hurt the love ones around him/her. I've been there with a family member drinking too much. The FM had a destroyed relationship with many of his loved ones.

Also, to young and teen musicans. They could think that it's cool to do drugs or you could get great ideas with one wiff of this. The members should set a great example for the "up and coming". Like the amp and guitar FAQ threads is a great example. Helps young members (like me) how the amp works and to point out all of the parts of a guitar.

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VDOP Set-Ups (i have seen posts about them and I wanted to have collection in my webshots so members don't have to post the same thing) (http://guitargeek.com/chat/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58037)

There will be more help in the future.

Hopefully I made myself clear.

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by Nameless
I think SG may have viewed the thread as a back slapping exercise as in "aren't I cool, look what I've done" sense, which is a bit sad really, as we're not really into glorifying drugs are we.

Thats how I percieved it anyways, and lay off him man, his heart is in the right place and your first sentence was really harsh. We can't all be genius' you know, but it doesn't make someone a bad person if they haven't got a degree in the english language.

I am not bagging on members, these are just my believes.

Like, you don't have to get high on drugs to get high on life.

EDIT: No one (members) is a bad person. I have respect for everyone.

[skip tracer]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
Sports and sushi does not get a person high, damage in the mind and body (yes, you could get hurt from sports), and/or die.

The subject of "What Durgs do You Take?" is sad because drugs (ex. cocaine, DMX, weed) can hurt the person and hurt the love ones around him/her. I've been there with a family member drinking too much. The FM had a destroyed relationship with many of his loved ones.

Also, to young and teen musicans. They could think that it's cool to do drugs or you could get great ideas with one wiff of this. The members should set a great example for the "up and coming". Like the amp and guitar FAQ threads is a great example. Helps young members (like me) how the amp works and to point out all of the parts of a guitar.


I can see the drugs thread quickly turning into an "I've done more than you!" pissing contest. But any thread like that tends to go in that direction quickly, whether it's "What bands have you seen?" or "What's the weirdest looking guitar?"

By the way, sports certainly can get you high. And eating a particularly large meal *does* get you high.

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by skip tracer
I can see the drugs thread quickly turning into an "I've done more than you!" pissing contest. But any thread like that tends to go in that direction quickly, whether it's "What bands have you seen?" or "What's the weirdest looking guitar?"

By the way, sports certainly can get you high. And eating a particularly large meal *does* get you high.

If so, SHUT IT DOWN (the thread)!

[heroin]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
I am not bagging on members, these are just my believes.

Like, you don't have to get high on drugs to get high on life.

Perhaps your personal believes should be kept personal, wait no, who knew a boy from Willowick, OH could have such a narrow grasp of life, that's the ticket.

Originally posted by doingtheunstuck

Are those sad? If you think so, you're a bloomin' idiot..

Nice to see you around still.

SGROCKER, are you familliar with the concept of ignorance? Drugs are a culture, not a segment of the food pyramid or something. Every drug is different, though maybe similar to others, can provoke experiences of a profound life enriching nature. This isn't Alduous Huxley grade obviously, this is a post from totse I made responding to a similar, brilliantly titled thread, basically what has the drugs shown you?

I am an animal. I prefer to live primaly, which isn't to negate possessions necessarily, only to negate the superficial aspect of such, as in, possess what makes you feel alive, even if it's a sweater, that's cool, but love how it makes you feel, not who made it. Significance is relative, so simply allow what makes you happy to be significant, and the rest is irrelevant. I won't be there when I die, so "fate" or simply death is irrelevant as well. Time is a gauge. I like what pot has done to my throat...my baritone is sexy now (I'm 18, this is important). The mainstream is money. It has helped me understand what's truly important to me in music, as I used to be very technical, very indie fashionist...heheh...but it's the soul, vibe, groove of the song, not the ****ing concept, **** concepts, concepts are for interior decorators. Though pure soul is, sort of, masturbation, very narcissistic. It has shown me how insecure and frightened the general populace is, on a bus, skytrain..these people need more love and less medication...So if anything, it has sharpened my perspective of life and cleared those haunting contradictions, which is everything really. As well, I had a banine essential tremor, I shook rediculously all the time, but after a nice shroom trip, it cleared the residue left behind from a difficult childhood and let me love and be loved.

I really ****ing hate ignorant stupid people...anyone else?

[Nameless]

Originally posted by heroin
I really ****ing hate ignorant stupid people...anyone else?

He's still entitled to his opinions and debate and idea sharing is a vital part of our humanity. I don't necessarily agree with his views but they're no less valid than yours.

Stereotyping someone due to where they come from is also stupid and ignorant.

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by heroin
I really ****ing hate ignorant stupid people...anyone else?

First of all, I am not ignorant. I have took D.A.R.E. and health classes for a few years. So I know about illeagal and over the counter drugs with there effects.

(Please, just closed this thread.)

[Nameless]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
(Please, just closed this thread.)

Why? Because you're getting grief? You don't have to keep reading it but other members of the forum may wish to carry on the discussion.

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by Nameless
Why? Because you're getting grief? You don't have to keep reading it but other members of the forum may wish to carry on the discussion.

I'm going to stop telling my facts and believes before more stuff hits the fan.

[GDan]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
First of all, I am not ignorant. I have took D.A.R.E. and health classes for a few years. So I know about illeagal and over the counter drugs with there effects.

(Please, just closed this thread.)

The one you brought up? That was an old, old thread.

And D.A.R.E is hardly the most impartial of sources.

[GDan]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
I'm going to stop telling my facts and believes before more stuff hits the fan.

(Heroins comments aside) Being called on to provide a coherent defence for your beliefs is hardly "hitting the fan".

[lp_man]

I'm going to come to SG's defence here, I think you guys are being a little too hard on him.

I would imagine at some point that when we were tought about drugs, we were tought that they were bad, no?

And aggreed, in some cases they are, in health classes/pshe classes or whatever they never show the possible good side to drugs, it's extremely biased for a reason, to try to get kids to be scared and stay away from drugs.

Why? So they don't end up trying drugs and doing it wrong/too much and killing themselves or getting in troubble with the cops. It is for good intentions, but probably not the best way to go about it.

There will be some lessons still to learn :)

[skip tracer]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
If so, SHUT IT DOWN (the thread)!

I'm not a moderator. Besides, I stay away from those threads. If they get up to like 10 pages I'll check it out to see what's so interesting, but it's usually not.

[METaLLiKka7447]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
First of all, I am not ignorant. I have took D.A.R.E. and health classes for a few years. So I know about illeagal and over the counter drugs with there effects.

That just made my day.

Thank you SGROCKER for always making me laugh.

:)

[METaLLiKka7447]

Originally posted by fatgraymatt
My personal opinion is, in a country that bills itself as the "Land of the Free", it's pretty f*cked up that we have the highest per-capita incarceration rate in the world.


Good post. Like you said, Cannabis was made illegal to gain power over the Mexican immigrants. "Land of the Free..."- what a bunch of crap. :rolleyes:


That's why I plan on joining my Candian friends someday. (They're much more lenient with the Marijuana laws.) :D

[heroin]

I just took his age in account now, sorry SGRocker, maybe when you make it to highschool you'll understand. I'd suggest you consider forgetting what you learned in D.A.R.E, the gateway theory and so on and so forth and such. Drugs will modify how your brain functions, I think I just proved that. But I won't stop, because I'm 18 and I love my central nervous system to bits.

And to METaLLiKka7447, thanks to you guys, although its decriminalized it will never be made legal. Decriminalization, though sounds all fuzzy and swell, still means you will be fined $150 for possessing under an ounce, and any more you could face up to five years in jail plus an increased fine. Though, I was smoking some on the beach at the fireworks yesterday, and the popos did nothing, they asked my what I was doing, I explained that I was enjoying a nice joint at the fireworks, they asked how much I had, which I responded with a quarter ounce and they left me alone. Though I know people who have been fined, it means nothing, just fight it, the cop wont show up to court and you will be free as the bird.

[METaLLiKka7447]

Originally posted by heroin
And to METaLLiKka7447, thanks to you guys, although its decriminalized it will never be made legal. Decriminalization, though sounds all fuzzy and swell, still means you will be fined $150 for possessing under an ounce, and any more you could face up to five years in jail plus an increased fine. Though, I was smoking some on the beach at the fireworks yesterday, and the popos did nothing, they asked my what I was doing, I explained that I was enjoying a nice joint at the fireworks, they asked how much I had, which I responded with a quarter ounce and they left me alone. Though I know people who have been fined, it means nothing, just fight it, the cop wont show up to court and you will be free as the bird.

That's what I'm talking about. Canada may not legalize pot, but they're often very lenient when dealing with it. You were caught smoking a J and didn't even get punished.

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by heroin
I just took his age in account now, sorry SGRocker, maybe when you make it to highschool you'll understand.

I'M GOING TO HIGH SCHOOL w/ HONOR'S CLASSES IN ONE MONTH.

EDIT: Caps Lock

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by METaLLiKka7447
That just made my day.

Thank you SGROCKER for always making me laugh.

:)

If you like to laugh at others, do not post. Keep it to yourself.

[heroin]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
If you like to laugh at others, do not post. Keep it to yourself.

He's not the only one who finds your BELEIVES amusing. D.A.R.E is bogus and I don't personally vouche for mostly anything to be illegal (ie drug use, assisted suicide, prostitution), it doesn't need to be illegal to be controlled and by making it illegal you only create another market. And as I said, wait till you're in highschool.

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by heroin
He's not the only one who finds your BELEIVES amusing. D.A.R.E is bogus and I don't personally vouche for mostly anything to be illegal (ie drug use, assisted suicide, prostitution), it doesn't need to be illegal to be controlled and by making it illegal you only create another market. And as I said, wait till you're in highschool.

Here, I'm dropping this and moving on. Herion, I respect your opinions. No one has the same mind of believes. Also to Metallica, same thing.

I have respect for everyone's opinions. :)

[sirterrapin]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
I'M GOING TO HIGH SCHOOL w/ HONOR'S CLASSES IN ONE MONTH.

EDIT: Caps Lock

I'm not sure you're quite ready for "honor's" english...

[heroin]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
Illegal drugs (ex. cocaine) are bad to you (health) and you can get additied *snap* just like that. Prescription and over-the-counter drugs (ex. Advil) is for helping you (headache, high fever, etc.), but can be just as additing as illegal drugs. Also, pre. and OTC drugs can hurt you if (ex. you) take too much.

No, to get addicted to anything you would have to do the drug more than once, this includes cocaine (trust me). Oh and yeah, I was addicted to advil for 3 long agonizing years, I would have withdrawl symptoms like lazyness, lethargy, short attention span, desire to watch day time television....OTC drugs are like DXM, Diphenhydramine (sp? ie. Sleeping aids like Gravol or Dramamine...good ol modest mouse), but yes, anything taken outside their reccomended dosage can potentially hurt you...including water, people die from drinking too much water more commonly than bad E tabs. I know you're entitled to your opinion, but you're wrong, I just want you to know that.

[DavyBoy721]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
If you like to laugh at others, do not post. Keep it to yourself. Why don't you just unsubscribe to this. The more you talk, the more the sh*t will come.

And really, talking like this

"I have took D.A.R.E. and health classes for a few years. So I know about illeagal and over the counter drugs with there effects."

won't help either. You wanna be respected as a high school student who knows his stuff. Well I have took is about 4th grade. And illeagal isn't even a word... and their effects maybe?

Damn I should join the Nazis:p

[heroin]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
Here, I'm dropping this and moving on. Herion, I respect your opinions. No one has the same mind of believes. Also to Metallica, same thing.

I have respect for everyone's opinions. :)

DUDE! ITS BELIEFS! BELIEFS!!!! I've highlighted this twice...same mind of the believes..are you sure you don't do drugs? That almost sounded cool. Come by bc sometime and we'll mush it up, make up some crazy metathychronismical words.

[sirterrapin]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
Illegal drugs (ex. cocaine) are bad to you (health) and you can get additied *snap* just like that. Prescription and over-the-counter drugs (ex. Advil) is for helping you (headache, high fever, etc.), but can be just as additing as illegal drugs. Also, pre. and OTC drugs can hurt you if (ex. you) take too much.

The only addictions I've had were prescription. I went through morphine withdrawal after I broke my arm as a child, and I was mildly addictedto oxycodone after I got my wisdom teeth out.

You sound like a 7th-grade health textbook edited by a remedial english class.

[skip tracer]

The guy's like 14...it's good that he thinks drugs are bad. Take Mr. T's advice: "drink your milk, brush your teeth, stay in school and don't do drugs." Just make sure to re-evaluate your world view once your out of high school.

[METaLLiKka7447]

Originally posted by heroin
DUDE! ITS BELIEFS! BELIEFS!!!! I've highlighted this twice...same mind of the believes..are you sure you don't do drugs? That almost sounded cool. Come by bc sometime and we'll mush it up, make up some crazy metathychronismical words.

:D

[cubby]

My take on drugs has pretty much always been that as long as it is in moderation and no one is hurt there is nothing wrong with it. I've done my fair share over the years and I don't think that I have suffered any permanant damage. During my teen years I was a pothead - I still made good grades and never really got into trouble. I took a lot of pills during my college years - including lots of sulfate and demerol. I also was a regular drinker and found alcohol to be the harshest of all drugs I used. Pot never made me do anything but chill - but alcohol was always the one that was hardest to judge my limit by.

I have also seen a few of my friends ruin their lives - not because of drugs but because of their own weak will and self destructive personalities. IMO if you have those personality traits you will find some way to ruin your life - in that case drugs are simply one of the easy avenues.

I DO recommend knowing what you are taking and having a good idea of what your limits are.

[teleman]

Originally posted by skip tracer
"What's the weirdest looking guitar?"


Which usually leaves me to post :eek: (http://www.carverdoug.com/wang.html)(click on face)

[james teh OG]

so many of my friends smoke and drink (not heavily but enough when enough people are around) that i'm kind of numb to it by now (those i still adamantly oppose smoking).

some of them smoke pot too, which i don't really think is bad i just feel i have nothing to gain from pot. if they do cocaine or heroin, they are getting a serious ass whipping from me though.

i kind of resent a lot of the pot smokers in my neighborhood cause they're kind of ****s, but i personally don't think that's exclusively because of the pot.

[DavyBoy721]

Originally posted by teleman
Which usually leaves me to post :eek: (http://www.carverdoug.com/wang.html)(click on face)



A PENIS GUITAR:eek:

[ClaytonM TKW]

Man SGrocker, you crack me up. Enjoy highschool man, nothing makes your highschool life better than quoting the DARE program.

[heroin]

Originally posted by DavyBoy721
A PENIS GUITAR:eek:

hahaha, penis...

[teleman]

Originally posted by ClaytonM TKW
Man SGrocker, you crack me up. Enjoy highschool man, nothing makes your highschool life better than quoting the DARE program.

they have DARE in Canada?

I'll bet the anagram doesn't mean the same north of the border.

It probably means Drink Always, Regularly, and Everywhere:p

[heroin]

Originally posted by teleman
they have DARE in Canada?

I'll bet the anagram doesn't mean the same north of the border.

It probably means Drink Always, Regularly, and Everywhere:p

Damn straight, ****ing *****.

[deadhead420]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
First of all, I am not ignorant. I have took D.A.R.E. and health classes for a few years. So I know about illeagal and over the counter drugs with there effects.

(Please, just closed this thread.)


You might have taken DARE, but does that mean you know ALL the facts? NO! DARE tells you about the bad side of drugs, and half the time, they're making **** up. All DARE is, is a scare tactic for kids.

[teleman]

Originally posted by teleman
they have DARE in Canada?

I'll bet the anagram doesn't mean the same north of the border.

It probably means Drink Always, Regularly, and Everywhere:p

(Serious voice)
In regards to my previous post, no offence (I even spelled it the way Canada does in deference) was meant toward anyone of Canadian citizenship, descent, or residency. It was an inappropriate joke fueled by many years of absorbing the stereotyping of Canadians by such media outlets as "Strange Brew," The Frantics, and the entire run of SCTV. Alcoholism is a serious matter and should not be trivialized.

I am proud to say that I enjoy visiting Canada, especially T.O. Not only do I play hockey, I understand the cultural significance that it has for Canada. I am a student of the history of the game, from the Chicoutimi Cucumber to Boom Boom to Mr. Hockey to the Gumper.I also know that it is not the national sport, as lacrosse fills that position. Again, I offer my sincerest apologies to the best neighbor any country could have.

And to any Qubecois out there, Je suis désolé.





If you are still offended, Take off Hoser!
:D

[ClaytonM TKW]

Drugs
Are
Ridiculously
Entertaining

[heroin]

Originally posted by teleman
(Serious voice)
In regards to my previous post, no offence (I even spelled it the way Canada does in deference) was meant toward anyone of Canadian citizenship, descent, or residency. It was an inappropriate joke fueled by many years of absorbing the stereotyping of Canadians by such media outlets as "Strange Brew," The Frantics, and the entire run of SCTV. Alcoholism is a serious matter and should not be trivialized.

I am proud to say that I enjoy visiting Canada, especially T.O. Not only do I play hockey, I understand the cultural significance that it has for Canada. I am a student of the history of the game, from the Chicoutimi Cucumber to Boom Boom to Mr. Hockey to the Gumper.I also know that it is not the national sport, as lacrosse fills that position. Again, I offer my sincerest apologies to the best neighbor any country could have.

And to any Qubecois out there, Je suis désolé.





If you are still offended, Take off Hoser!
:D

:D You tease...

[michael-callari]

Hey SGROCKER, i'm going to high school soon too, and uh, I don't think preaching like you work for D.A.R.E is going to get you laid.:D Just don't worry about it man, you're entitled to your opinion and if you think drugs are bad, just don't do them.

[doingtheunstuck]

Originally posted by heroin
I just took his age in account now, sorry SGRocker, maybe when you make it to highschool you'll understand. I'd suggest you consider forgetting what you learned in D.A.R.E, the gateway theory and so on and so forth and such. Drugs will modify how your brain functions, I think I just proved that. But I won't stop, because I'm 18 and I love my central nervous system to bits.

And to METaLLiKka7447, thanks to you guys, although its decriminalized it will never be made legal. Decriminalization, though sounds all fuzzy and swell, still means you will be fined $150 for possessing under an ounce, and any more you could face up to five years in jail plus an increased fine. Though, I was smoking some on the beach at the fireworks yesterday, and the popos did nothing, they asked my what I was doing, I explained that I was enjoying a nice joint at the fireworks, they asked how much I had, which I responded with a quarter ounce and they left me alone. Though I know people who have been fined, it means nothing, just fight it, the cop wont show up to court and you will be free as the bird.

Hey man, nice to see you too! Too bad I missed you when you were at the fireworks. I'm up here for 'round a month. Kat & I were sitting in Robson Square, watching the somewhat scary waves of people after the fireworks. Mocking large crowds = funner than fireworks :D

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by michael-callari
Hey SGROCKER, i'm going to high school soon too, and uh, I don't think preaching like you work for D.A.R.E is going to get you laid.:D Just don't worry about it man, you're entitled to your opinion and if you think drugs are bad, just don't do them.

FORGET DARE! I never said I was still duing DARE (I had it in 5th Grade). You know, SCREW DARE! I DON'T CARE! :mad:

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by michael-callari
Hey dude, take it easy. I was just kidding.


I know you are, but the others above are not.

I guess I don't fit in with this drugs thread (Hell, I don't want to).

[METaLLiKka7447]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
FORGET DARE! I never said I was still duing DARE (I had it in 5th Grade). You know, SCREW DARE! I DON'T CARE! :mad:

"duing."

HA!

HAHA!

HAHAHAHA!

HA!

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by METaLLiKka7447
"duing."

HA!

HAHA!

HAHAHAHA!

HA!

Spelling error. Like I said before, if you like to laugh at others, do not post. Keep it to yourself.

[METaLLiKka7447]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
Spelling error. Like I said before, if you like to laugh at others, do not post. Keep it to yourself.

If I can't laugh at others, then you can't post anything stupid.







*1 week later- hey did SGROCKER go on vacation? He hasn't posted in a while...

[METaLLiKka7447]

Oops, gotta' let it slip every once in a while. Besides, it's late and I'm intoxicated...

Edit: What the hell just happened to fatgraymatt's post?

Edit #2: I fixed my mistake.

[fatgraymatt]

Hey, you caught that quick, man. I deleted it right after I posted just 'cause it felt a little ****ish.

For those of you who don't know what the hell we're talking about, I originally posted that, Metalikka being a Grammer Nazi, he should have known that the word he should have used in his previous post was "then", not "than". Of course, since than, he corrected it, making everything even more confusing.


Oops, I mean "since then".

[DavyBoy721]

Thanks for fillin me in:)

[METaLLiKka7447]

Originally posted by fatgraymatt
Hey, you caught that quick, man. I deleted it right after I posted just 'cause it felt a little ****ish.

For those of you who don't know what the hell we're talking about, I originally posted that, Metalikka being a Grammer Nazi, he should have known that the word he should have used in his previous post was "then", not "than". Of course, since than, he corrected it, making everything even more confusing.


Oops, I mean "since then".

It all makes sense now. :)

[heroin]

Originally posted by METaLLiKka7447
If I can't laugh at others, then you can't post anything stupid.


:D

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791 FORGET DARE! I never said I was still duing DARE (I had it in 5th Grade). You know, SCREW DARE! I DON'T CARE!

Not too good with peer pressure are we? That's alright, your friends know best...lol, and I'm so your friend. Wanna blaze? Or wait no its, "Want some beer?" "no.." "Want some ether?" "what?" "nm..."

[james teh OG]

oh god, this doesn't have to do with drugs being dumb but you guys HAVE to hear this.

i work the morning shift at a home furnishing type store unloading the trucks. we take the product out of the boxes and send them out to the floor. this morning, my co-worker and i were unpackaging a box full of bathroom stuff, and inside a soap dispenser we found A USED JOINT!!!

my manager kind of did a double take when he smelled it like "oh...OH..."

[METaLLiKka7447]

Originally posted by james teh OG
oh god, this doesn't have to do with drugs being dumb but you guys HAVE to hear this.

i work the morning shift at a home furnishing type store unloading the trucks. we take the product out of the boxes and send them out to the floor. this morning, my co-worker and i were unpackaging a box full of bathroom stuff, and inside a soap dispenser we found A USED JOINT!!!

my manager kind of did a double take when he smelled it like "oh...OH..."

A used joint? You mean like a roach?

You could've gotten a couple hits off that. ;)

[Blue Collar Man]

Passing up perfectly good, albeit used, ganga. Tsk tsk tsk.:rolleyes:

[james teh OG]

Originally posted by METaLLiKka7447
A used joint? You mean like a roach?

You could've gotten a couple hits off that. ;)

it didn't come with a clip, if thats what you mean. it looked like brown butcher's paper, about an inch long, burnt off at the tip. the smell was a dead giveaway.

and i didn't use it, but i'm wondering if my manager did when we turned it into him, cause less than an hour later he jumped into the trash compactor and cut his leg on a broken vase. he had to be taken away by the paramedics and anything.

needless to say, it was a very eventful morning.

[manhole]

I can't believe that in this day and age we have any teenager mouthing the words of Nancy Regan.
:rolleyes:

The bottom line according to me: there is no such thing as "hard drugs" or "gateway drugs." There is only drugs. Some drugs will mess you up, some drugs will bring you only joy. Which will do which varies by person. Some are more likely to mess you up (heroin, cocaine) than others (weed, ecstasy), but again, the effects are unpredictable (the tiniest toke on a joint turns me into Mr Paranoia, but I'm fine on acid). If you want to take drugs, do. If you don't want to take drugs, don't. Either way, don't go looking on internet forums for approval of your lifestyle choice, especially not by belittling the lifestyle choices of others (i.e. title of thread).

[Nameless]

Originally posted by manhole
Either way, don't go looking on internet forums for approval of your lifestyle choice, especially not by belittling the lifestyle choices of others (i.e. title of thread).

Speaking of which, the dude who started the thread seems to have gone awfully quiet on the subject.

[zcashman]

After like 100 people its hard to follow:confused:


I can't believe that in this day and age we have any teenager mouthing the words of Nancy Regan.
She's not the only person against drugs...

[Dan the Man]

Originally posted by manhole
I can't believe that in this day and age we have any teenager mouthing the words of Nancy Regan.
:rolleyes:


Agreed.

Come on, guys! Just say "No"! How hard could that possibly be, if it's just soooooo simple? That's all there is to it. You just kind of say "No." See? Drug use isn't such a complex issue after all.

[paulandpaul]

I like to take drugs and visit this forum. it helps heighten the sense of how rediculous it's become.

[Nameless]

Originally posted by paulandpaul
I like to take drugs and visit this forum. it helps heighten the sense of how rediculous it's become.


Ooooooh! Get you. Why don't you f*ck off somewhere else then if you don't like it. Guys like you are getting on my tits. If you don't like it, go somewhere else. No-one has your arm up your back to come here. If you don't like the conversation, don't involve yourself in it. Simpl as.

[doingtheunstuck]

Originally posted by Nameless
Ooooooh! Get you. Why don't you f*ck off somewhere else then if you don't like it. Guys like you are getting on my tits. If you don't like it, go somewhere else. No-one has your arm up your back to come here. If you don't like the conversation, don't involve yourself in it. Simpl as.

Paul is a good friend and during his peak period of posting, he was a ****ing GREAT guy to have around. His posts were more useful than 99% of what most people around here post, especially his review threads. They were awesome.

And "guys like him" or whatever you said? You have no clue how many of us that is, do you? Especially of a certain sect of older members who have been very very useful to this forum.

In the end though, if he's on your tits, you might want to be careful where you put them.

[Nameless]

Originally posted by doingtheunstuck
Paul is a good friend and during his peak period of posting, he was a ****ing GREAT guy to have around. His posts were more useful than 99% of what most people around here post, especially his review threads. They were awesome.

And "guys like him" or whatever you said? You have no clue how many of us that is, do you? Especially of a certain sect of older members who have been very very useful to this forum.

In the end though, if he's on your tits, you might want to be careful where you put them.

****ing GREAT poster or not, "guys like you" who are constantly making patronising and disparaging comments in a place you can simply choose to not visit, (i.e the "drugs are bad" thread or a thread they have lost interest in, not necessarily the entire forum), get on my nerves.

So the thread is ridiculous? No sh*t sherlock, we really needed you to tell us because we couldn't work it out for ourselves. Go on, keep telling us how stupid we are and how we're wrecking the forum while you astound us with your experience and bask in the glory of your seniority.

And I'll put my tits where I damn well please.

[GDan]

Originally posted by paulandpaul
I like to take drugs and visit this forum. it helps heighten the sense of how rediculous it's become.

If the place sucks so much then contribute productively or leave. Bitching just makes you sound like a wannabe cool teenager.

[albino]

settle down kids, its only the internet

[zcashman]

getting on my tits

Please explain what that means:confused:

[lp_man]

Originally posted by zcashman
Please explain what that means:confused:
I take it your not from the UK?

It means 'your annoying me' pretty much the same as 'your getting on my nerves'.

[Nameless]

It means getting on my nerves, only more so; an exaggerated version. It sounds really good in a scouse (thats Liverpool) and ****ney accent. :D

edit: posted at same time as lp man.

[paulandpaul]

if your dog started biting you would you just ignore it or abandon it?

[Nameless]

Originally posted by paulandpaul
if your dog started biting you would you just ignore it or abandon it?

So your comparing us to dogs now are you? Do you only open your mouth to change feet or something?

[paulandpaul]

Originally posted by GDan
If the place sucks so much then contribute productively or leave. Bitching just makes you sound like a wannabe cool teenager.

not really sure how that analogy works, but it was a good try.

and i'd think a older member like yourself would be just as frustrated with what this place has become.

[paulandpaul]

Originally posted by Nameless
So your comparing us to dogs now are you? Do you only open your mouth to change feet or something?

no.

I'm saying this forum is near and dear to some of us and it gets really frustrating to some of the folks who have been around here a long time to see what it's become.

why don't you take your own advice and ignore me if you don't care for what i have to say?

[Nameless]

Originally posted by paulandpaul
no.

I'm saying this forum is near and dear to some of us and it gets really frustrating to some of the folks who have been around here a long time.

Probably would have been best to have just said that then wouldn't it. Not the greatest choice of phrase to get your point across really. Your point being that you find people having conversations that don't interest you really frustrating?

[paulandpaul]

Originally posted by Nameless
Probably would have been best to have just said that then wouldn't it. Not the greatest choice of phrase to get your point across really. Your point being that you find people having conversations that don't interest you really frustrating?

it's alot more than that dude.

i would explain it furthur to you but i don't like you and would rather not waste the energy. I'm sure someone else could break it down for you.

[Nameless]

How noble of you.

[GDan]

Originally posted by paulandpaul
not really sure how that analogy works, but it was a good try.

and i'd think a older member like yourself would be just as frustrated with what this place has become.

Your comment was not constructive, it was bitching, in the manner of a disaffected teenager who goes around saying everything "sucks" to seem cool and superior. DYS?

A forum is not a tv show that suddenly starts to go bad when the writers run out of ideas. Its just a meeting place for people. You cant just walk back into a bar you havent been in for ages, go "Wow, this place sucks" and expect people to care for what you have to say.

I'm an older member? (Checks join date) So I am! Older than you in fact. Bow down newbie, You dont remember the good old days back in the winter of 2002 before this place went to hell...

[lp_man]

It's true thoug, it is moderately annoying when people post the same thing over and over, but it only takes one post to sort that: show em a link to the search button.

I guess I can't say anything, I would suspect people may think that I was a troll when I first came here, trying to get my post count up etc. I learnt my lesson and moved on from that. Its just a little learning-curve because so many new members have joined and they are getting used to it, being 'grown up' so to speak. I have done my bit (admitted many others too!) to try and reduce these threads by doing a guitar forum FAQ (another big update comming this week).

Most of them have their hearts in the right place, I found most new members annoying at first, but most of them are alright people. Sgrocker for example, he seems like an alright kinda guy, but one major or minor slip up and were onto him like wolves.

I personally the worst is over and things are getting better, more people, more information.

[teleman]

Originally posted by albino
settle down kids, its only the internet

yep. Take the insults to PM's or IM. There was a fairly good and civil debate going on in this thread. Don't tank it.

[brassdolphin]

honestly, not much has made me happier in life than a cheap hotel room, a bottle of jack daniels, a hot f--kin chick that i may have known for like 4 hours, and a big bag of yeyo....honestly..

[heroin]

personally i prefer to be mashed off my tits, like at this moment.
hey, look who got appointed to senate (larry cambpell, bc's more sober version of ralph klein :D) ^_^ helloooo marijuana legalization...Drugs are fun, since when was fun ever dumb. and people who argue on the net are little sissy nannypoos. well not argue, more like a bunch of yappity retarded dogs.

[Blue Collar Man]

Originally posted by heroin
and people who argue on the net are little sissy nannypoos. well not argue, more like a bunch of yappity retarded dogs.

*stands and claps*:D

[deadhead420]

Originally posted by brassdolphin
honestly, not much has made me happier in life than a cheap hotel room, a bottle of jack daniels, a hot f--kin chick that i may have known for like 4 hours, and a big bag of yeyo....honestly..



Sounds like the life to me

[DavyBoy721]

Originally posted by brassdolphin
honestly, not much has made me happier in life than a cheap hotel room, a bottle of jack daniels, a hot f--kin chick that i may have known for like 4 hours, and a big bag of yeyo....honestly..

I'd really rather get with a chick who I actually know..

[METaLLiKka7447]

Originally posted by Nameless
And I'll put my tits where I damn well please.

Did nobody notice this?

It's possibly one of the funniest things I've ever read on this forum. :D

[mikematyus]

this thread is just like trying to prove religion wrong. you're better off keeping to yourself in most cases.

zcashman, I'm generally with you in that I don't agree with alcohol or drug use, but (I'm not about to start arguements over it, it's usually completely ineffective and) you're just going to make enemies by praising your (for lack of a better term) straight edge beliefs.

you know who else pronounces their beliefs? those insane people over in the mid-east who suicide bomb stuff for "their" god.
so yeah.. don't take this crap personally and start a thread about it, that's way too junior-high school of you

[sirterrapin]

Originally posted by mikematyus
you know who else pronounces their beliefs? those insane people over in the mid-east who suicide bomb stuff for "their" god.
That was...uncalled for, especially since it's not a very good comparison.

[airfall]

Originally posted by mikematyus
this thread is just like trying to prove religion wrong. you're better off keeping to yourself in most cases. it's still worth talking about.

[mikematyus]

personally, I think this thread was uncalled for. but who am I?

edit: that was an asshole thing of me to say. I apologize for that, it's ignorant of me to say that.

[fatgraymatt]

Originally posted by lp_man
I take it your not from the UK?

It means 'your annoying me' pretty much the same as 'your getting on my nerves'.

LP, You have to understand, most of us Yanks aren' hip to British slang.

I, do, mostly however , I'v visited a couple of times briefly but I got it mainly from coutless hours spent watching stuff like Trainspotting, A Clockwork Orange, Monta Python, Benny Hill and Guy Ritchie movies (exept that one he put his wife in).

[GDan]

Recently, I've been coming to the conclusion that I played better when I was high most of the time.

However, I also, think I play better when I'm hungover. Or watching tv.

I reckon the trick is not in the drug. But in the detatchment and lack of perspective the drug provides. When you can play and create without thinking about what you are doing your subconcious will always create something 10 times better than anything your analytical mind can come up with.

I read an article recently on listening to music, a similar subject, and the analogy used was this: If someone throws a ball, you can either calculate its tragectory, mass, and air flow while the ball whizzes past your head, Or you can just put out your hand and catch the ball. Your unconscious mind is performing calculations far faster then your conscious mind could ever hope to achive, so trying too hard is just going to slow that process down.

When you listen to music you are hearing millions of wavelengths and emerging patterns and there is a little mathamatician inside you nodding appreciatively. Similarly, when you create nothing you can try to do will be as good as that little mathamatician can come up with. The harder you try to be creative, the more creativity eludes you. I reckon confidence in your ability helps as well, being able to but your hands to your instrument and feel you are going to sound great without trying too hard. Drugs can take you out of yourself and help. But surely the ultimate aim should be to be able to reach that place on your own?

Just a thought. Sorry if you've heard this before.

[manhole]

Originally posted by mikematyus
this thread is just like trying to prove religion wrong. you're better off keeping to yourself in most cases.
Quick piece of trivia: if we define a religion to be a system of beliefs founded on unprovable truths, mathematics is the only religion able to prove itself to be one.

zcashman, I'm generally with you in that I don't agree with alcohol or drug use, but (I'm not about to start arguements over it, it's usually completely ineffective and) you're just going to make enemies by praising your (for lack of a better term) straight edge beliefs.Why do you disagree with these things? Personal experience of them? Witnessing their negative effects on others? I'm dead serious here: what led to the formation of your opinion?

you know who else pronounces their beliefs? those insane people over in the mid-east who suicide bomb stuff for "their" god.
so yeah.. don't take this crap personally and start a thread about it, that's way too junior-high school of you
Just because you don't understand the motivations of someone, doesn't make them insane. And most Palestinian suicide bombers are marginally religious at best. Tamal suicide bombers in Sri Lanka are predominantly Marxists. I assume your statements don't indicate any actual prejudice against Palestinians, Muslims, or people of Middle Eastern Origin in general, but rather a general horror at the rise of the suicide bomber phenomenon.

Edit: I just reread this post and realised that I didn't laud your final summation as I originally intended. You're right. This is High School crap. Let's just leave it there.

[Bluesman]

The creator of this thread is probably on CrystalMeth.

[deadhead420]

Originally posted by Bluesman
The creator of this thread is probably on CrystalMeth.

No, just a ****.

[Bluesman]

^Hahahaha, as in he sits on it?

[deadhead420]

Originally posted by Bluesman
^Hahahaha, as in he sits on it?

Precisely, old chum

[heroin]

Originally posted by
Bluesman
^Hahahaha, as in he sits on it? Originally posted by deadhead420
Precisely, old chum

...erm...I was gonna rip on SG again, cause his post was pretty ripe for the pickens...but this got entirely too awkward...and confusing, who's plumbing who's pooper again? on another note, Hooray for acid! :D

[zcashman]

No, just a ****.

How was I a **** by starting the thread? I was just saying my opinion and asking others if they had the same one?....Isn't discussing things what forums are made for?

[deadhead420]

Yes, you're right, but you've offended many people in the process

[Bluesman]

Originally posted by zcashman
How was I a **** by starting the thread? I was just saying my opinion and asking others if they had the same one?....Isn't discussing things what forums are made for?

Yes that's correct, BUT. No one usually gives a **** about some asshole who thinks everyone who does drugs every now and then is dumb.

[zcashman]

I love how people say im offending people but I've been called many things just because of this thread, and no one says anything. And I never even said anything bad about people who do drugs, just the drugs themselves.

[GDan]

Originally posted by zcashman
I love how people say im offending people but I've been called many things just because of this thread, and no one says anything. And I never even said anything bad about people who do drugs, just the drugs themselves.

By saying "Drugs are dumb" you alienate everyone who chooses to do drugs by calling their choice "dumb". Imagine if someone dropped into these forums with a thread called "Playing guitar is totally dumb and pointless"?

[DavyBoy721]

Originally posted by GDan
By saying "Drugs are dumb" you alienate everyone who chooses to do drugs by calling their choice "dumb". Imagine if someone dropped into these forums with a thread called "Playing guitar is totally dumb and pointless"? Exactly....that would offend me and I would bitch them out about it..

[zcashman]

Imagine if someone dropped into these forums with a thread called "Playing guitar is totally dumb and pointless"?

I wouldn't take personal offence or feel "alienated". They can have they're own opinion.

[Petary791]

Originally posted by zcashman
I wouldn't take personal offence or feel "alienated". They can have they're own opinion.

But I am certainly not allowed to.

[Bluesman]

You know, i just came home from walking the dog, and i stepped into some sh7t. I'm pissed now.

[DJ LBP]

meh

[Bluesman]

I was acually high when i posted that.

[deadhead420]

haha

Stepping in dog **** does suck. I went out on our deck the other night, barefoot, and stepped in a rather fresh pile. Needless to say, it sucked.

[Bluesman]

Yea, the worse part of it is the smell that you carry with you. You can't get rid of it unless you take your shoes off. When you then step in **** with your socks, that would REALLY suck.

[DavyBoy721]

Originally posted by Bluesman
Yea, the worse part of it is the smell that you carry with you. You can't get rid of it unless you take your shoes off. When you then step in **** with your socks, that would REALLY suck. Why may I ask would you be walking outside in your socks? Then again, you might have an inside animal so nevermind... I'm sure stepping in any animals sh*t sucks...especially horses and things that shoot out huge loads..

[Talent?!]

Originally posted by DavyBoy721
Why may I ask would you be walking outside in your socks? Then again, you might have an inside animal so nevermind... I'm sure stepping in any animals sh*t sucks...especially horses and things that shoot out huge loads..

I'd much rather stand in horse crap than dog crap.


BTW, huge loads isn't the right thing to say in this context. :D ;)

[DavyBoy721]

Originally posted by Talent?!
I'd much rather stand in horse crap than dog crap.


BTW, huge loads isn't the right thing to say in this context. :D ;) good point... But I'm pretty sure the grammar was correct;)

[lp_man]

Cow pats are the worst, once your in, it engulfs your foot!

[heroin]

This thread has gone to ****. And the more I think about where all the good posters have vanished off to makes me wonder why I keep wasting my time here...I remember one time when I was 7 or something me and my friend told his younger friend to eat some dog doo cause it tasted like chocolate, and he did, and we laughed, good times.

[DavyBoy721]

Originally posted by lp_man
Cow pats are the worst, once your in, it engulfs your foot! fun to throw once they're dry though
:D

[lp_man]

Originally posted by DavyBoy721
fun to throw once they're dry though
:D
I never noticed...since the invention of compuers, never needed to play with ****...:rolleyes:

[SGROCKER0791]

It is only legal to throw poo if you're a monkey. :D

[Bluesman]

Yea, it's also legal to masturbate in front of random people if you're a monkey.

[Bluesman]

Yea, it's also legal to masturbate in front of random people if you're a monkey.

[lp_man]

Originally posted by Bluesman
Yea, it's also legal to masturbate in front of random people if you're a monkey.
Oh ****!:rolleyes:

Edit: I knew that one would put him over the top.

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by Bluesman
Yea, it's also legal to masturbate in front of random people if you're a monkey.

Funny, no.

Banned....com'n, we have seen this one coming!

[manhole]

This thread reminds me of this time when I was a kid. Basically, I fell out of a tree and hurt my shoulder pretty badly. It took me a good ten-fifteen minutes to notice that I'd landed in a whopping big dog turd.

[DJ LBP]

I think drugs are pretty fun, AND I love stepping in poop. This thread is ALL ABOUT THINGS I LOVE.

[ClaytonM TKW]

Whoa, who got ban'd???
I'm confused n'est pas?

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by ClaytonM TKW
Whoa, who got ban'd???
I'm confused n'est pas?

Bluesman. ^ ;)

[airfall]

Originally posted by heroin
This thread has gone to ****. literally

[lp_man]

Originally posted by airfall
literally
Not like it wasnt **** at the beginning.

[airfall]

Originally posted by lp_man
Not like it wasnt **** at the beginning. oh it was **** alright, just a different type of ****. now it's the gooey greenish-brown type.

[lp_man]

Originally posted by airfall
gooey greenish-brown type.
I think you need to check that out with a doctor ;)

[airfall]

Originally posted by lp_man
I think you need to check that out with a doctor ;) me or my horse? :D

[ClaytonM TKW]

He got banned for the masturbating monkey thing? That seems a little weak, but he was a wanker anyway.

[Petary791]

Originally posted by ClaytonM TKW
He got banned for the masturbating monkey thing? That seems a little weak, but he was a wanker anyway.

Who got banned?

[SGROCKER0791]

Bluesman was banned (look at his status).

Check this out:

http://guitargeek.com/chat/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60392

[Petary791]

What an idiot.

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by Petary791
What an idiot.

He should have not joined he was going to be offensive to members (well...he was only offensive to doingthestuck). Joe(inthebox1980) stopped him in his tracks. :)


Edit: He's 18!

[ClaytonM TKW]

...See...I told you - the dude is a wanker.

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by ClaytonM TKW
...See...I told you - the dude is a wanker.

Some Bluesman he is....

[DavyBoy721]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
Some Bluesman he is.... yeah....I just read that whole thread.. what an idiot.. If it wasn't closed and I had been on here I would have probably said some not so nice stuff.

[heroin]

Wow...better watch myself closer than they are...uhm..hail...hail satan? Can I say that? My balls are pretty emo right now, emo is really just procrastination, which is why emo sucks, not for whatever motive bluesman was all hot and/or bothered over. Kidding, I love sunny day real estate etc....I heard a pretty bad joke today at work from some sick courier, a fly is gobbling on some **** when another sets down on the turd, has a few nibbles and farts, so other fly says "hey, i'm trying to eat", told you it was bad..Now I feel like some chrono trigger, never did finish that game, but I learned a bunch of the age's for piano/guitar, and chrono chross...I think Yasunori Mitsuda or something was the composer? Scars of time is neat, especially when it's got a drum beat and the chords got some dirt on it....no it sounds better played in drop C, stoned and riffing satanic incantations.

[michael-callari]

Originally posted by DavyBoy721
yeah....I just read that whole thread.. what an idiot.. If it wasn't closed and I had been on here I would have probably said some not so nice stuff.

Is he like the first dude to ever be banned? I've never heard of anyone getting banned on here. It's also very rare that a thread gets closed. Or maybe I just go on the Ultimate-Guitar forums too much.:D

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by michael-callari
Is he like the first dude to ever be banned? I've never heard of anyone getting banned on here. It's also very rare that a thread gets closed. Or maybe I just go on the Ultimate-Guitar forums too much.:D

Nope. There is...

Gary (I think his computer ID was used by someone else)
Emeraldwilly (many user names)
a guitarist
Bluesman
etc.......

:D

[heroin]

Originally posted by SGROCKER0791
Nope. There is...

Gary (I think his computer ID was used by someone else)
Emeraldwilly (many user names)
a guitarist
Bluesman
etc.......

:D

Haha..nice, just, simply highlighting the fact that Bluesman got banned..heh Maybe the moderator just has something against Dutchmen, that results in such getting banned, such being bluesman, bluesman the banned. It's a shame in such a modern world we cant just jam out a little farewell diddy over the net.

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by heroin
Haha..nice, just, simply highlighting the fact that Bluesman got banned..heh Maybe the moderator just has something against Dutchmen, that results in such getting banned, such being bluesman, bluesman the banned. It's a shame in such a modern world we cant just jam out a little farewell diddy over the net.

Look at his last 5-15 posts.... (http://guitargeek.com/chat/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=564252)

[fatgraymatt]

Gee, that's too bad. I didn't really know him but he seemed like a very enlightened person... you bunch of bearded, retarded emo fags!

That was a joke, joeinthebox1980! I swear I don't want to beat up anyone, especially mentally challenged, hirsute homosexuals who enjoy listening to Dashboard Confessional. Peace to all my guitar-playing brothers.


Originally posted by heroin
Haha..nice, just, simply highlighting the fact that Bluesman got banned..heh Maybe the moderator just has something against Dutchmen, that results in such getting banned, such being bluesman, bluesman the banned. It's a shame in such a modern world we cant just jam out a little farewell diddy over the net.

BTW, Heroin, it's "ditty", not "diddy", which is something else entirely. And let's be painfully honest here. At this point in history, years after 9/11, lots of Americans are prejudiced against people from the Middle East. Unfortunately, some of my fellow Americans are also prejudiced against African-Americans, Hispanics and Asians. But at least I think we can all agree on ONE thing, we f**king HATE the Dutch.

OK, that was another joke, moderators. When it gets this late I start joking compulsively, please don't ban me. :)

[Talent?!]

Originally posted by fatgraymatt
BTW, Heroin, it's "ditty", not "diddy", which is something else entirely. And let's be painfully honest here. At this point in history, years after 9/11, lots of Americans are prejudiced against people from the Middle East. Unfortunately, some of my fellow Americans are also prejudiced against African-Americans, Hispanics and Asians. But at least I think we can all agree on ONE thing, we f**king HATE the Dutch.

OK, that was another joke, moderators. When it gets this late I start joking compulsively, please don't ban me. :)

*Michael Caine flashback*

[airfall]

well we definitely haven't proved that drugs are dumb... just Bluesman. i guess that's a start. i actually thought he made his own status "banned" to make fun of people who were saying he should be.

i think we should definitely write him a very emo farewell ditty. i'll play lead!

[Talent?!]

Originally posted by airfall
well we definitely haven't proved that drugs are dumb... just Bluesman. i guess that's a start. i actually thought he made his own status "banned" to make fun of people who were saying he should be.

i think we should definitely write him a very emo farewell ditty. i'll play lead!

Putting "banned" as your status is frowned upon by the mods. Pretty sure he has been banned though.

[airfall]

Originally posted by Talent?!
Putting "banned" as your status is frowned upon by the mods. that why i figured he'd do it... i wish they'd let us edit his sig :)

[fatgraymatt]

Originally posted by Talent?!
*Michael Caine flashback*

I don't get it, is there a movie in which Michael Caine expresses hatred of the Dutch? If so, let me know, I'll be renting it. Michael Caine fascinates me, the man never blinks. I believe him to be a robot.

[Talent?!]

Originally posted by fatgraymatt
I don't get it, is there a movie in which Michael Caine expresses hatred of the Dutch? If so, let me know, I'll be renting it. Michael Caine fascinates me, the man never blinks. I believe him to be a robot.

Austin Powers 3. :)

[fatgraymatt]

Ahh, forgot about that. A classic.

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by DavyBoy721
yeah....I just read that whole thread.. what an idiot.. If it wasn't closed and I had been on here I would have probably said some not so nice stuff.

Something like this...

Originally posted by DavyBoy721
The kid's clueless

[DavyBoy721]

Originally posted by fatgraymatt
Ahh, forgot about that. A classic. Where'd the Framus go?:eek: Oh, well I'm diggin the new rig..very nice man. That Ibanez is sweet.

And SG, was that originally directed to you? Sorry about that man:)

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by DavyBoy721
Where'd the Framus go?:eek: Oh, well I'm diggin the new rig..very nice man. That Ibanez is sweet.

And SG, was that originally directed to you? Sorry about that man:)

A) He's selling the Cobra for $1900.

B) Na man it's okey. It's the past. :)

[fatgraymatt]

I've still got the Framus, I've been saying on GG that I'm going to sell it, but I'm not totally sure yet, it's so damn sweet too. I dig both of these amps so much, it's like divorcing Katherine Zeta-Jones to marry Charlize Theron. I know I'm gonna be happy with Charlize but, damn, that means I can't be with Katherine anymore? It's a world of harsh decisions. I wish I could keep them both but I can't really justify that, money-wise. (in other words, I'm married!)

[heroin]

Originally posted by fatgraymatt
BTW, Heroin, it's "ditty", not "diddy", which is something else entirely.

Who gives a ****? Those squiggles represent a thought.... nm you are a jerk.

[fatgraymatt]

Man, you're sensitive. Don't get your panties in a twist pal, I was just making a joke, not trying to come down on you. Sheesh!

Also, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Sqiggles? And sorry if I'm not up on my internet abbreviations but what does "nm" mean? I thought it meant "not much". Not trying to be a smartass, I'm just confused.

[heroin]

ok...my girlfriend can be..well pretty amazing when it comes to how bad her grammar is, we both know it, so when I correct her it's the big things, just so I don't come off as an aggravating, annoying, abrasive grammar nazi, commenting on the most insignificant and tedious aspects of conversation...

my original post had, death to the grammar faggots, and I mean it, I wish harm on each and every one of you.

nm being nevermind. Squiggles being text, it's nothing but squiggles, lacking in phonetics and frequency to determine any character. I don't understand why people correct others when the point is understood, unless they are self professed assholes. And I know im really touchy lately, I want to fight and write aggressive music and drink beer, the testosterone is too much, good bye indie, it was nice knowing you.

[fatgraymatt]

Originally posted by heroin
ok...my girlfriend can be..well pretty amazing when it comes to how bad her grammar is, we both know it, so when I correct her it's the big things, just so I don't come off as an aggravating, annoying, abrasive grammar nazi, commenting on the most insignificant and tedious aspects of conversation...

B]

If I did that to every bad-grammar post on GG I'd never get anything else done. I didn't mean it like that, I was just trying to make a joke of "diddy", you know, like "diddy" = "diddle". Lame, I know, but it was late.


[i]nm being nevermind.

Oh yea, I should've known that.



[i]Squiggles being text, it's nothing but squiggles, lacking in phonetics and frequency to determine any character. I don't understand why people correct others when the point is understood, unless they are self professed assholes. And I know im really touchy lately, I want to fight and write aggressive music and drink beer, [/B]

Hey, that's how some of the best metal in history has come about. Make use of it, dude!


BTW, I like your Pong avatar. You just don't get much Pong these days.

[SGROCKER0791]

Originally posted by fatgraymatt
BTW, I like your Pong avatar. You just don't get much Pong these days.

Pong can get out of hand.... (http://www.elfrigo.org/flash/pong.htm)

[fatgraymatt]

That was cool, those little dudes reminded me of the little guys from Beserker. Anybody old enough to remember Beserker? I loved that game, especially when you got electrocuted. That was the first game I remember where your little men could actually shoot each other. Kind of violent at the time, but not exactly Grand Theft Auto.

We have all strayed so far off the thread topic. Uh, drugs rule! Er, I mean they suck, umm...

[airfall]

Originally posted by heroin
death to the grammar faggots i don't care about your grammar, but can we PLEASE stop using language like this?! "emo fags. grammar faggots. this is gay. you're gay." STOP IT. i completely agree that the grammar nazi thing is pretty negative, so i usually ignore it. sometimes it's amusing or they point out a grammar rule i didn't know, but most of the time it's just obnoxious if the meaning is clear. however, using words incorrectly (unless you actually think they're homosexual... in which case you're no better than those who call black people ni****s) on purpose to insult someone is ignorant, unnecessary and immature. i'm not trying to single you out. i'm just really sick of this kind of language and will continue to bitch about it whenever it comes up.

[lp_man]

This thread is taking up valuble brandwith, its time it got closed. :)