distortion idea.

[hot_rats!]

i find this a useful technique for home recording on a 4track tape multi track that can do different speeds.

...say you got three HOT GUITAR LICKS to put together, but just one flimsy distortion pedal and no mics for an amp.

1)record the first track with the distortion pedal on a SWEET SETTING.

2)record the second and third tracks CLEAN.

3) speed up the tape, send guitar track 2 through the effect loop---> into the distortion pedal(same SWEET SETTING will work)--->and then into track four. record it on track 4. you go back and listen to normal speed track4 as a distorted version of track 2 it will have extra bassy distortion.

4)slow down the tape, send guitartrack 3 through the efect loop--->into the distortion pedal(you get the idea by now)--->and into track. record over track 2. listen to normal track 2 as a distorted version of track 3 and it will have a shriller HIGH END BITE(!)distortion sound.

put it all together and youve got three different distortion sounds all with their own range. you can also use similar speed change techniques to turn a phasor into a flanger, or flnger into chorus, or chorus into a wobbley delay, reverb into... ****.

[thefobia]

Thats a great inventive technique. Its kind of a cross between re-amping and Les Paul's tape speed recording techniques. Very cool. :)

I LOVE that kind of experimental technique. It's what makes recording fun.

I think that everyone should start with limited equipment, to LEARN how to think like that. There is NO WAY that some of the records that Joe Meek produced/engineered would have sounded the way they did if they had been produced in a big 'state of the art' studio.

As sophisticated digital audio has become more advanced, more powerful and cheaper, people aren't 'forced' to be inventive with recording techniques. This is probably why there are a lot of very ordinary recordings around at the moment.

I'd love to hear it! :)

[Elkvis]

Originally posted by thefobia

As sophisticated digital audio has become more advanced, more powerful and cheaper, people aren't 'forced' to be inventive with recording techniques. This is probably why there are a lot of very ordinary recordings around at the moment.

just wait til the first EMP gets set off over the US... then everyone will have to go back to vacuum tubes, vinyl and magnetic tape because all the new digital stuff will be fried.

[Doctor J]

Originally posted by Elkvis
just wait til the first EMP gets set off over the US... then everyone will have to go back to vacuum tubes, vinyl and magnetic tape because all the new digital stuff will be fried.

EMPs ruin all electrical devices. Those older things are only mildly more resistant to EMPs than newer equipment. And the military uses shielded digital equipment anyway.

[lordsaccharine]

great idea man!

[tortureresponse]

Originally posted by thefobia


I think that everyone should start with limited equipment, to LEARN how to think like that. There is NO WAY that some of the records that Joe Meek produced/engineered would have sounded the way they did if they had been produced in a big 'state of the art' studio.

As sophisticated digital audio has become more advanced, more powerful and cheaper, people aren't 'forced' to be inventive with recording techniques. This is probably why there are a lot of very ordinary recordings around at the moment.

I'd love to hear it! :)


man, i completely agree. i first started out with a casio keyboard, a pile of stompboxes and a karaoke machine to record on. when i finally got a decent synth/sampler workstation, i was able to fully maximize it's potential. now that i've got a killer studio rig, i'm never at a loss to make things sound interesting or to get the sound i want.

i get so amused when i see kids these days whining about how they can't get a good synth bass outta their nord lead that mommy and daddy bought them. ****in losers.

great music is more about imagination than gear.

[thefobia]

Originally posted by tortureresponse
man, i completely agree. i first started out with a casio keyboard, a pile of stompboxes and a karaoke machine to record on. when i finally got a decent synth/sampler workstation, i was able to fully maximize it's potential. now that i've got a killer studio rig, i'm never at a loss to make things sound interesting or to get the sound i want.

i get so amused when i see kids these days whining about how they can't get a good synth bass outta their nord lead that mommy and daddy bought them. ****in losers.

great music is more about imagination than gear.
:D

Great gear certainly helps, but it won't make great records for you! I think that having to find ways around limitations teaches you a lot about the processes involved in creating and capturing sounds and the POTENTIAL in a single effects unit.

Tip to anyone mad enough to try:

If you ever want to challenge your creativity, try and make the most ungodly sound possible with nothing but a single sample of a doorbell (which you can layer as many times as you like) and use your choice of ONLY ONE effect, an EQ and manipulating of tape speed.... AND use it effectively in a song.

:)

[Moo]

Originally posted by Elkvis
just wait til the first EMP gets set off over the US... then everyone will have to go back to vacuum tubes, vinyl and magnetic tape because all the new digital stuff will be fried.

What? Who the hell has the realistic capabilities to do this other than the U.S.? Turn the channel from sci-fi for a change. No one will return to ancient technology because of a small flaw, think about the basic economics of having to completely overhaul everything electric that you own. It would bankrupt us. No one is that stupid.

[2strokebloke]

damnit, there's no pitch control...nor an fx loop, on my tascam porta 02.

[hot_rats!]

Originally posted by 2strokebloke
damnit, there's no pitch control...nor an fx loop, on my tascam porta 02.
still a ton of tricks to be done with the basic cassette machines

[Talent?!]

Originally posted by hot_rats!
still a ton of tricks to be done with the basic cassette machines

Like Jumping Jack Flash by the Stones.


I think it was that track anyway.

[Elkvis]

Originally posted by Doctor J
EMPs ruin all electrical devices. Those older things are only mildly more resistant to EMPs than newer equipment. And the military uses shielded digital equipment anyway.

vacuum tubes operate at voltages in excess of those generated by an EMP. any vacuum tube equipment that does not use support circuitry that contains more sensitive parts will continue to function after an EMP.

[Doctor J]

Originally posted by Elkvis
vacuum tubes operate at voltages in excess of those generated by an EMP. any vacuum tube equipment that does not use support circuitry that contains more sensitive parts will continue to function after an EMP.

The military still uses shielded digital equipment that is safe from EMPs.

But, uh, by the way, have you seen a lot of all-tube devices not plugged into solid state components?

[StratTweaker]

I do something like this, however it's not varied by tape speed. I just double track riffs; the mid range is around the same, but on the first track the treble is cut, and bass boosted. On the second track, the lows are cut, and highs are boosted. It makes it sounds fuller, and gives a cool warbly, chorus effect.

I also noticed for clean parts, that I'll record the same licks with the neck pickup on one track and the bridge pickup on the second. I enjoy this.

[whatgoeson]

Originally posted by Talent?!
Like Jumping Jack Flash by the Stones.


Also Street Fighting Man is all acoustic I think.

[treurwilg]

My Tascam portastudio 424 MKIII is on its way! Finally!

[hot_rats!]

Originally posted by treurwilg
My Tascam portastudio 424 MKIII is on its way! Finally!
wow! i didnt even know about this one. what are tracks 5 and 6 used for?