What's the most fuzzed out, distorted sound possible?

[iaresee]

Here ya go! Here's some Scrambler Plus goodness for you. First up the pedal in question: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/870088/pi...amblerplus.jpg

Four knobs: mix controls the mix between the D+ and the Scrambler, you can pretty got 100% either way. The "txt" knob controls the "texture" of the Scrambler. Really it changes the level where the cross-over distortion kicks in. All the way counterclockwise and the tinest signal gets hacked and chopped, all the way clockwise and it doesn't clip the heck out of it some much. The "drv" knob is the drive for the D+ and the "vol" knobs is overall output volume.

Now I'll setup the clip:

Clean reference

100% Scrambler, texture all the way counterclockwise -- see how nasty it clips? Crazy. That's your traditional Scrambler -- total chaos. But check out the bloom as you hold stuff. As the signal falls below the clipping threshold it comes alive again.

100% Scrambler but with texture at noon. Now we're a little more sane.

100% D+, minimum drive. Nice overdrive.

50% D+/Scrambler -- see how you can hear the Scrambler underneath?

More Scrambler than D+ this time -- see how as I hold that last chord the D+ dies away, and the Scrambler signal takes over?

Now totally cranked D+ distortion -- THIS IS IT! Mayhem. Big attack, and the as the D+ decays it turns into the fuzzy bloom from the Scrambler. Perfect.

Check out the held chord at the end. I got tired of holding it and shut it all down.

Damn, that felt good to play. My fuzzes have been collecting dust for a while now. Poor little fuzz boxes are all neglected and narly.

[Savant]

Originally Posted by cerebro911

I'm brand new, just joined about 40 minutes ago.

I've started a bit of a quest for my own 'holy grail' of distortion, I've been trying to find a way to make single notes sound broken and fuzzy like power chords will (obviously it will never be as powerful or full) but it seems distortion pedals just make the high/er notes sound like a squeal and shrill. Fuzz boxes work alot better but still notes are very pasty, not broken up.

Right now I mainly use a US Big Muff (with a Fuzz Face for older material) and while somedays it sounds right, alot of times I want to strangle it when I solo.

I hear people talk about one pedal 'driving' another distortion, but anytime I try having more then one on at a time my amp just descends into solid feedback.

I've been looking at some Death by Audio (Fuzz War and Soundwave Breakdown) and some Devi Ever pedals, anyone have experience with those?

The most distortion that is possible is a pure square wave, which is impossible to reproduce. The closest we can get is the square waves produced by synthesizers, which are perhaps 99.9% THD or some other ridiculously high number.

Despite what notions you may have, huge amounts of distortion sound extremely weak. The synth lead sound in "Axel F." from the Beverly Hills Cop movies is a square wave sound, or as near to 100% distortion as possible. I'm sure you will agree it's not quite a hardcore metal sound.

Originally Posted by Doctor J

I mean, I like that because it rhymes, but I've never heard that expression before. haha

Horses for courses comes from horse racing. The term refers to the fact that horses are sensitive to their surroundings, so some will run particularly well on certain tracks, while others may not.

The term has come to be applied to golf fairly regularly, where some pros always play well on some courses, while others may struggle. For example, Tiger Woods has never won an event at Riviera, but he's won 7 times at Firestone.

[Jackfuzz]

Originally Posted by cerebro911

I'm brand new, just joined about 40 minutes ago.

I've started a bit of a quest for my own 'holy grail' of distortion, I've been trying to find a way to make single notes sound broken and fuzzy like power chords will (obviously it will never be as powerful or full) but it seems distortion pedals just make the high/er notes sound like a squeal and shrill. Fuzz boxes work alot better but still notes are very pasty, not broken up.

Right now I mainly use a US Big Muff (with a Fuzz Face for older material) and while somedays it sounds right, alot of times I want to strangle it when I solo.

I hear people talk about one pedal 'driving' another distortion, but anytime I try having more then one on at a time my amp just descends into solid feedback.

I've been looking at some Death by Audio (Fuzz War and Soundwave Breakdown) and some Devi Ever pedals, anyone have experience with those?

WELCOME TO GG


Broken up thick and full single notes ?
Sounds like you need a cascading-dirtbox-set up.

Try a Death by Audio Fuzz War, into a Fender Blender.

Or, an old *MXR Fuzz Unit, into a DbA Fuzz War.


* like so : http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...R/whatFUZZ.jpg


Good Luck









After Thought :

You can also try a Fender Blender, into a Catelinbread V8 Fuzz Engine. (ro the other way 'rond)

[Jackfuzz]

Originally Posted by jm417

toma is 100% right. I formerly boosted my big muff with a LPB-1 clone, and lately, I have been using the voltage sag outputs on my PP 2. I think it sounds better boosted. Also, another good version of the Interfax HP-1 (Harmonic Percolator) is the Barge Concepts BP-1. They also make a couple versions of the old Roland BeeBaa fuzz that get pretty wild.

Good Call on the Barge Concepts BB-Jr & BP-1

Would LOVE to hear those two cascading into one another

[Doctor J]

Originally Posted by Savant

Horses for courses comes from horse racing. The term refers to the fact that horses are sensitive to their surroundings, so some will run particularly well on certain tracks, while others may not.

The term has come to be applied to golf fairly regularly, where some pros always play well on some courses, while others may struggle. For example, Tiger Woods has never won an event at Riviera, but he's won 7 times at Firestone.

*facepalm* Yeah, I understood what it meant. Just never heard it.

[fullmetalfunk]

Death by Audio Supersonic Fuzz Gun. That's what I'd go for.

[fullmetalfunk]

Originally Posted by Savant

The most distortion that is possible is a pure square wave, which is impossible to reproduce. The closest we can get is the square waves produced by synthesizers, which are perhaps 99.9% THD or some other ridiculously high number.

Despite what notions you may have, huge amounts of distortion sound extremely weak. The synth lead sound in "Axel F." from the Beverly Hills Cop movies is a square wave sound, or as near to 100% distortion as possible. I'm sure you will agree it's not quite a hardcore metal sound.

You nailed it!

You could use an Electro Harmonix Micro Synth to get a good square wave. Atleast from what I've heard they sound good.

[jonnyrotten]

Superfuzz is over the top. Wattson makes a well made clone. The Fender blender is another. Big Muff Pi also.

[Jackfuzz]

Has nayone ever had the guts to try a Fender Blender into a Ampeg Scrambler ?

http://www.analogman.com/graphics/scramblertest.jpg

Anyone that brave ?

. . . at all ?

[berarduur]

Originally Posted by Jackfuzz

Has nayone ever had the guts to try a Fender Blender into a Ampeg Scrambler ?

http://www.analogman.com/graphics/scramblertest.jpg

Anyone that brave ?

. . . at all ?

It was a boring sound; no definition, just a lot of noise!

[Jackfuzz]

Originally Posted by berarduur

It was a boring sound; no definition, just a lot of noise!

Even if used purely for a lead tone

[Rents]

http://tinyurl.com/ygdrojw

>.<

hhaa

[berarduur]

Originally Posted by Jackfuzz

Even if used purely for a lead tone

Yup; noisy pedals into each other is noise

[Prime]

I use a bug muff with a blues driver the tone on the muff just past over 1 o'clock and the sustain maxed, then a the blues driver on as much as tolerable, it only breaks up when you play open chords.... and muff fuzzes and then fuzzes some more and the the blues driver gives it some definition on tone, but maybe not what you are after.

[cerebro911]

Actually, that sounds very very close to what I want. I'm not shooting for some kind of insane metal sound (not a metal player) just a massive, destroyed lead tone (though one that sounds like I'm playing notes...).

I really liked the audio clip for the Scramble Plus, once past the chaotic opening sounds it showed quite a bit of range (though that opening effect could have alot of interesting uses). Right now I'm using a US Big Muff and Dunlop Fuzz Face resissue. I've tried adjusting some of my style, starting out on the bottom E and A strings to satisfy the want for low fuzz sound, then skipping up a few strings to start hitting the high notes everyone loves.

Problem is, with just the Fuzz Face on it's a lovely, smooth tone and with the Big Muff on it's a fantasticly punchy and fuzzy sound. When I combine the two, I either kill the Big Muff or make the Fuzz Face sound very odd.

How are you supposed to drive one pedal with another? Anytime I have two distortions on it sounds terrible, like I'm using a live grenade in my effects line, and it blew up and killed me so no one's actually playing the guitar...

I have managed to get some great sounds by turning my wah pedal on (Dunlop 535Q) with the fuzz face, but it's usage is somewhat limited. It is highly probable I can't match whats in my head because it doesn't exist. I've noted that chorus pedals can add a delightfully punchy edge to solos, but it doesn't exactly add to the 'fuzz' factor.

And yes, I do agree that the Beverly Hills Cops isn't much of a hardcore sound...